1 00:00:17,150 --> 00:00:14,199 [Music] 2 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:17,160 this hope radiates for the masses 3 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:21,119 headline the birth of July 8 1947 the 4 00:00:25,399 --> 00:00:22,710 Army Air Forces has announced are 5 00:00:28,819 --> 00:00:25,409 applying here - found and is now in the 6 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:28,829 possession of the RA and we change the 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:32,880 game changer I occasionally think how 8 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:36,090 quickly our differences worldwide would 9 00:00:47,639 --> 00:00:39,870 vanish if we were facing an alien threat 10 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:50,100 fade to black with your host Jimmy 11 00:00:55,299 --> 00:00:52,930 church on the GameChanger radio network 12 00:01:00,810 --> 00:00:55,309 and a GRA 13 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:04,610 year 1985 14 00:01:10,289 --> 00:01:08,330 [Music] 15 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:10,299 you only need to pay too 16 00:01:13,420 --> 00:01:12,460 with jimmy touch only game change in 17 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:13,430 that one 18 00:01:34,670 --> 00:01:28,560 [Music] 19 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:34,680 all right fade to black this spoke radio 20 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:40,960 for the masses how you doing everybody 21 00:01:55,130 --> 00:01:52,160 I tried today's Monday October 30th 303 22 00:01:58,430 --> 00:01:55,140 days into the New Year just 62 days left 23 00:02:00,710 --> 00:01:58,440 we are live from a bunker somewhere in 24 00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:00,720 downtown Burbank California and I would 25 00:02:03,770 --> 00:02:02,159 like to welcome everybody listening all 26 00:02:04,540 --> 00:02:03,780 around the world all across the United 27 00:02:06,890 --> 00:02:04,550 States 28 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:06,900 Hitler until there to and fro back and 29 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:08,910 forth up and down east and west north 30 00:02:14,150 --> 00:02:10,950 and south far and near 31 00:02:17,780 --> 00:02:14,160 this is fade to black for kjc are the 32 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:17,790 game changer Network and K GRA the 33 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:21,300 planets I miss Jimmy Church what is 34 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:22,650 cracking everybody how you doing it's 35 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:27,840 Monday Monday oh man what a show we have 36 00:02:32,830 --> 00:02:29,430 lined up for tonight because we have 37 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:32,840 very special guest Dave Schrader is here 38 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:37,920 darkness Dave Schrader yep he's here to 39 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:41,280 scare the crap out of us he's got a 40 00:02:45,890 --> 00:02:44,100 money-back guarantee by the way you 41 00:02:51,290 --> 00:02:45,900 could send your email to a darkness 42 00:02:54,490 --> 00:02:51,300 David at gmail.com there's probably a 43 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:54,500 darkness Dave out there at gmail.com 44 00:02:59,840 --> 00:02:57,810 tomorrow night is Halloween and our 45 00:03:03,590 --> 00:02:59,850 guests tomorrow night is Randy Williams 46 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:03,600 and he's got a new book out and so we're 47 00:03:07,610 --> 00:03:05,310 gonna do some Jack the Ripper action 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:07,620 that's right with it's a new book about 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:09,690 Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Ripper 50 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:11,610 gonna do that tomorrow night it's gonna 51 00:03:17,569 --> 00:03:14,130 be amazing Wednesday night live from the 52 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:17,579 UK we have Hugh Newman back with us and 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:19,410 he's got a new book out my favorite 54 00:03:25,780 --> 00:03:23,370 subject stone circles megalithic stone 55 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:25,790 circles so we're gonna do that on 56 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:28,860 Wednesday I have the book here I have 57 00:03:37,970 --> 00:03:33,840 finished it by the way and it is it's a 58 00:03:40,729 --> 00:03:37,980 great book but it's more like it's like 59 00:03:44,060 --> 00:03:40,739 it's like an encyclopedia 60 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:44,070 it's got stone circles in there that 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:46,530 I've never heard of and the stories 62 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:50,010 behind them and the ages and all of the 63 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:52,170 scientific stuff so it's a very very 64 00:03:56,449 --> 00:03:54,690 cool books called stone circles that's 65 00:03:58,009 --> 00:03:56,459 what we will do on Wednesday Thursday 66 00:03:58,830 --> 00:03:58,019 night another fate or night with John 67 00:04:01,110 --> 00:03:58,840 wrap up 68 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:01,120 and is no more fake newsroom live call 69 00:04:09,330 --> 00:04:03,790 Oh numbers of 3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 or 5 or 70 00:04:13,290 --> 00:04:09,340 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 now you can follow 71 00:04:15,449 --> 00:04:13,300 me on twitter @jj do twitter is easy and 72 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:15,459 it's always up as I said that I'm 73 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:18,790 clicking on it now there you go ok 74 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:22,720 Twitter is up the chat rooms are up you 75 00:04:25,770 --> 00:04:24,100 can follow me on Twitter Facebook 76 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:25,780 YouTube everything's fade to black to a 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:27,760 church radio you know what to do I just 78 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:29,410 go over to the website and the website 79 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:31,840 just looks absolutely amazing we did a 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:34,150 did a bunch of facelifts over the 81 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:35,650 weekend we've been working on the 82 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:38,080 website for the last couple of weeks and 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:39,910 I think we've got it pretty sussed out 84 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:43,450 in situated and then we turned our 85 00:04:51,210 --> 00:04:47,020 sights on the bunker and had to I wish 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:51,220 you could see the view you know what I'm 87 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:53,530 gonna post this look everybody watching 88 00:04:59,550 --> 00:04:56,740 me on the bunker cam this is the view as 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:04:59,560 I look over right this is this is the 90 00:05:12,090 --> 00:05:03,330 view in one direction you know boom and 91 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:12,100 then boom right and then boom boom you 92 00:05:17,969 --> 00:05:16,390 know even go this far ok boom I'm gonna 93 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:17,979 post all those pictures I mean the the 94 00:05:23,850 --> 00:05:21,070 bunkers just a bomb and I just sit in 95 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:23,860 here and I just look around and it's 96 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:27,760 just so cool so anyway yeah I'm just 97 00:05:35,550 --> 00:05:30,450 taking pictures I'll post all those up 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:35,560 and so eliminated mice in the studio man 99 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:37,810 I had mice in my studio I had six of 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:41,110 them and we had to get rid of the mice 101 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:44,890 man so now I'm down to two mice and each 102 00:05:49,380 --> 00:05:47,950 one controls three computers just hit a 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:49,390 little but on the side one two three 104 00:05:53,870 --> 00:05:51,250 which one do you want boom done I have 105 00:05:59,070 --> 00:05:53,880 no more mice I just got a nice clean 106 00:06:01,890 --> 00:05:59,080 desk man no cables man what an 107 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:01,900 improvement and there you go and my new 108 00:06:08,940 --> 00:06:06,580 tascam headphones life is grand all 109 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:08,950 right where am I look at the clock here 110 00:06:11,620 --> 00:06:10,750 man I got deep shredder coming in 111 00:06:12,610 --> 00:06:11,630 alright 112 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:12,620 let's get some stuff out of the way 113 00:06:16,930 --> 00:06:15,230 let's do this really quickly any 114 00:06:21,790 --> 00:06:16,940 questions or comments during the show 115 00:06:24,940 --> 00:06:21,800 hashtag a hash back he's to have a hash 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:24,950 bag in in high school back in the 80s 117 00:06:29,860 --> 00:06:28,970 yeah I had a hash bag hash tag F to be 118 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:29,870 on Twitter 119 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:36,410 bag F to be Q and also email throughout 120 00:06:40,990 --> 00:06:38,420 the show Jimmy Jimmy Church radio calm I 121 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:41,000 wonder how quickly you guys are gonna 122 00:06:46,570 --> 00:06:45,320 get hash tag hash bag up in Twitter 123 00:06:50,130 --> 00:06:46,580 that's alright that's already the hash 124 00:06:54,270 --> 00:06:50,140 tag it should be hash tag hash bag 125 00:06:57,850 --> 00:06:54,280 [Laughter] 126 00:07:00,340 --> 00:06:57,860 sometimes I make myself laugh okay no 127 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:00,350 look at John easy ease just took a 128 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:02,210 picture of the bunker cam of me taking a 129 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:04,850 picture of me taking a picture of myself 130 00:07:13,450 --> 00:07:07,610 that's a that's pretty that's pretty 131 00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:13,460 sick that's pretty cool alright this 132 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:16,670 Wednesday breaking news this Wednesday 133 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:21,050 November 1st we will announce our next 134 00:07:25,540 --> 00:07:24,440 late-night talk podcast host contest of 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:25,550 which we don't really have a name for 136 00:07:29,140 --> 00:07:26,690 but that's close enough 137 00:07:32,140 --> 00:07:29,150 the next late-night talk podcast host 138 00:07:33,970 --> 00:07:32,150 contest complete with rules and how to 139 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:33,980 enter we're not going to do that tonight 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:35,690 we're doing the announcement on 141 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:38,690 Wednesday there's reasons why we have to 142 00:07:43,630 --> 00:07:41,210 do it on Wednesday all right so not 143 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:43,640 tonight but Wednesday November first so 144 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:45,290 tune in for that we did the sneak 145 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:47,510 preview we got all of the banners out 146 00:07:55,030 --> 00:07:52,400 and tascam helped you know promote this 147 00:07:56,860 --> 00:07:55,040 and this is courtesy of your friends 148 00:07:59,650 --> 00:07:56,870 over at a scam Pro so that's about to 149 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:59,660 bust out we will do that on Wednesday so 150 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:02,000 please tune in and I want to remind 151 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:04,550 everybody that unity workshops is now 152 00:08:08,020 --> 00:08:06,890 working on their first series of podcast 153 00:08:09,850 --> 00:08:08,030 on 154 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:09,860 portals okay they need your help 155 00:08:15,820 --> 00:08:12,410 producers and writers just go over to 156 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:15,830 it's very simple the unity project org 157 00:08:20,890 --> 00:08:18,560 read is going to get the links to that 158 00:08:23,050 --> 00:08:20,900 up here in Twitter in just a second you 159 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:23,060 can also write John at modern masters 160 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:25,190 org or Rita Achebe Church 161 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:28,910 radio.com very simple we want 162 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:32,260 testimonials we want video we want audio 163 00:08:38,260 --> 00:08:35,120 we want written stuff we want research 164 00:08:40,210 --> 00:08:38,270 this is a community project we want you 165 00:08:42,330 --> 00:08:40,220 all right a couple of things we 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:42,340 announced this last week 167 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:46,370 first off contact in the desert has a 168 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:47,930 new home it's the Renaissance Hotel 169 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:51,350 right it's so contacting the desert it's 170 00:08:55,570 --> 00:08:53,180 now in Palm Springs not in Joshua Tree 171 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:55,580 it's right down the road that's why it's 172 00:09:00,250 --> 00:08:57,680 called contact in the desert and so it's 173 00:09:02,050 --> 00:09:00,260 in Palm Springs and everything that you 174 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:02,060 need you can just go to contact in the 175 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:04,250 desert calm the announcements are now up 176 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:07,310 and going we'll get the links up in in 177 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:09,560 Twitter here and sends you over there 178 00:09:14,110 --> 00:09:12,290 but it's it's a larger facility it's 179 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:14,120 fully air-conditioned lots of 180 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:16,610 restaurants and things to do and a spa 181 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:19,340 and a nice open night sky that will take 182 00:09:24,370 --> 00:09:19,910 your breath away 183 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:24,380 okay so there you go also our next event 184 00:09:31,540 --> 00:09:27,950 will be the conscious life Expo February 185 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:31,550 9th through the 12th 2018 at the LAX 186 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:34,250 Hilton we do this event every single 187 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:36,410 year tickets and info are over I 188 00:09:42,490 --> 00:09:39,830 conscious life Expo calm the the really 189 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:42,500 cool news Friday night the kickoff for 190 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:46,010 the event I'll be hosting the ancient 191 00:09:53,710 --> 00:09:50,420 aliens panel primetime Friday night in 192 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:53,720 the main plaza ballroom it's gonna be 193 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:56,810 great so I look forward to seeing all of 194 00:10:01,630 --> 00:09:58,730 you fade or knots there that room holds 195 00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:01,640 about about a thousand you know 196 00:10:05,950 --> 00:10:03,080 somewhere in that neighborhood thousand 197 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:05,960 fifteen hundred to capacity it's a large 198 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:08,510 room there's live streams and there's 199 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:10,250 other things too as well but that kicks 200 00:10:14,260 --> 00:10:11,650 off February 9th through the 12th 201 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:14,270 announcing it now because we're you know 202 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:15,860 a couple of days we're in November and 203 00:10:19,540 --> 00:10:17,240 we are just a couple of months away from 204 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:19,550 this event so tickets and info over I 205 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:23,720 conscious life Expo dot-com I don't 206 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:25,010 forgive us to subscribe to our podcast 207 00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:28,010 over 740 archive shows two dollars a 208 00:10:32,410 --> 00:10:29,840 month click on the podcast banner over 209 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:32,420 at Jimmy Church radio calm you can also 210 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:34,370 become a fader not just go to our 211 00:10:38,020 --> 00:10:36,650 membership section on the site where you 212 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:38,030 get the bunker cam hello 213 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:39,680 but he watching me now in the bunker cam 214 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:42,170 you get commercial free downloadable 215 00:10:46,450 --> 00:10:43,610 archives everything else that you need 216 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,460 plus autographed t-shirts hats that kind 217 00:10:52,180 --> 00:10:48,560 of stuff okay so I've become a member 218 00:10:54,190 --> 00:10:52,190 over in our membership area don't forget 219 00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:54,200 to check out all of our sponsors life 220 00:10:58,750 --> 00:10:56,750 change t get the t-dot-com River moon 221 00:11:02,440 --> 00:10:58,760 coffee new pharma ancient life oil 222 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:02,450 sacred skulls and new manna food storage 223 00:11:08,140 --> 00:11:05,120 and of course barring optics got emailed 224 00:11:09,550 --> 00:11:08,150 today from one of the fader Knights who 225 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:09,560 was also a guest on the show by the way 226 00:11:15,940 --> 00:11:13,040 that just got their bearing optics a 227 00:11:18,370 --> 00:11:15,950 night vision they got the gen three very 228 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:18,380 cool to have that email exchanged today 229 00:11:24,820 --> 00:11:22,190 also with new 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MacMullen 244 00:12:05,230 --> 00:12:03,170 you can meet chip Paul you can meet 245 00:12:07,450 --> 00:12:05,240 Juanita and Jeff from River Moon coffee 246 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:07,460 they're all going to be there alright so 247 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:09,110 come on out it's going to be a great 248 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:12,050 great event and it's also a really cool 249 00:12:18,490 --> 00:12:14,450 social gathering where we can all get 250 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:18,500 together okay all right happy birthdays 251 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:20,210 get to show crack and happy birthday to 252 00:12:29,020 --> 00:12:23,150 today one of my favorites I just got to 253 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:29,030 do this me along today she's 47 and he 254 00:12:33,010 --> 00:12:30,800 is great great great she's great man 255 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:33,020 everything she's done but it's still one 256 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:35,330 of her first is still one of her best 257 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:44,480 because she played Debbie in Friday yeah 258 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:47,510 I got a few I got a few quotes almost 259 00:12:55,269 --> 00:12:51,110 busted out Bush frontman Gavin roster 260 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:55,279 today is 52 Henry Winkler the Fonz today 261 00:13:03,460 --> 00:12:58,610 can you believe it is 72 on the stay in 262 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:03,470 history OTD 1938 a 23 year old orson 263 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:06,320 welles causes a nationwide panic with 264 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:09,620 his broadcast of the War of the Worlds 265 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:13,040 the realistic radio drama of a Martian 266 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:16,730 invasion of planet Earth can you believe 267 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:19,370 it 1938 Wow 268 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:23,720 he was only 23 unbelievable Vader fact 269 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:27,560 this is a fader fact now this you can 270 00:13:32,050 --> 00:13:29,630 vet this you can or you can just listen 271 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:32,060 to me and and and try to remember this 272 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:35,950 nobody won the Nobel Peace Prize in 273 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:39,760 nineteen fourteen fifteen sixteen 274 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:42,800 eighteen twenty three twenty four twenty 275 00:13:58,750 --> 00:13:48,769 eight thirty two 1939 through 1943 1948 276 00:14:01,480 --> 00:13:58,760 1955 56 66 67 and 1972 why well sure you 277 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:01,490 got to ask why I write the Nobel 278 00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:06,010 Committee didn't find anybody worthy 279 00:14:14,769 --> 00:14:07,700 that's right 280 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:14,779 seriously like eighteen times no Nobel 281 00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:17,600 Prize winners easy enough to figure out 282 00:14:24,910 --> 00:14:21,920 from 39 to 43 though right tonight very 283 00:14:28,449 --> 00:14:24,920 special guests darkness Dave Schrader is 284 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:28,459 here and before we say host a host or 285 00:14:32,410 --> 00:14:30,410 ghost a ghost or coast-to-coast 286 00:14:34,990 --> 00:14:32,420 we're not gonna do that even though you 287 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:35,000 think I just did I'm reminding you that 288 00:14:41,850 --> 00:14:39,440 we are not no no we're not gonna do that 289 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:41,860 we wouldn't do that that's so that's so 290 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:44,510 self-serving and egotistical to call 291 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:46,850 this host to host or ghost a ghost or 292 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:49,279 coasting cuz I'm not gonna do it I'm 293 00:14:55,870 --> 00:14:50,300 just not gonna go there 294 00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:55,880 but he is the guy that you won at your 295 00:15:00,160 --> 00:14:56,630 campout 296 00:15:03,340 --> 00:15:00,170 you guys go camping with the kids he's 297 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:03,350 the guy from the campsite next door that 298 00:15:07,060 --> 00:15:04,730 comes over 299 00:15:08,650 --> 00:15:07,070 and scares the crap out of everybody and 300 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:08,660 that's what we're gonna do tonight 301 00:15:16,509 --> 00:15:13,760 because it is Hallows Eve all right okay 302 00:15:19,329 --> 00:15:16,519 now ah let me hit this River moon coffee 303 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:19,339 look look in the everybody look at the 304 00:15:22,180 --> 00:15:20,990 bunker camp take a picture of that 305 00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:22,190 that's right 306 00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:27,199 that's my River Moon coffee sleeve is 307 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:28,480 that cool 308 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,209 look at that can you read it 309 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:34,160 can you read it can you read it how cool 310 00:15:36,910 --> 00:15:34,790 is that 311 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:36,920 that's so official that's official so 312 00:15:46,569 --> 00:15:43,310 you know you've arrived right hmm I post 313 00:15:48,250 --> 00:15:46,579 it up in Twitter right before the show 314 00:15:50,699 --> 00:15:48,260 and you know it's one of those things 315 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:50,709 man I let my emotions get a hold of me 316 00:15:56,250 --> 00:15:53,810 it's just it got a hold of me so yeah I 317 00:15:59,340 --> 00:15:56,260 tweet it out man I'm done with Joe Rogan 318 00:16:07,290 --> 00:15:59,350 all right I'm just done with him and 319 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:07,300 it's I've just I've lost respect and 320 00:16:14,050 --> 00:16:09,920 it's it's a tough thing for me to say 321 00:16:16,689 --> 00:16:14,060 because I looked up to Joe for so many 322 00:16:18,939 --> 00:16:16,699 years enjoyed his programming and Rita 323 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:18,949 will tell you I can't the countless 324 00:16:26,110 --> 00:16:23,569 nights over the last probably five seven 325 00:16:29,079 --> 00:16:26,120 years of listening to Rogan you know 326 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:29,089 every single night and just enjoyed it 327 00:16:39,129 --> 00:16:34,370 didn't matter who the guest was and last 328 00:16:41,139 --> 00:16:39,139 week he had Tom DeLonge on and it I'm 329 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:41,149 gonna get to some other other past shows 330 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:46,610 and reasons for this but and and he okay 331 00:16:53,230 --> 00:16:49,810 it's like this and and I mean this I 332 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:53,240 mean this in the kindest of ways so I 333 00:17:02,530 --> 00:16:54,970 just I just want you to listen to me 334 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:02,540 that Rogen used to be a guy a kid that 335 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:06,230 questioned everything you know and he 336 00:17:09,699 --> 00:17:08,329 would ask those questions and and he 337 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:09,709 would bring on his guest and he was 338 00:17:17,049 --> 00:17:13,490 truly interested in all things whether 339 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:17,059 it was lost history or the origins of 340 00:17:21,949 --> 00:17:17,730 man or 341 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:21,959 a or Egypt or lost civilizations and and 342 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:24,390 and our education system in UFOs and 343 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:27,600 ghosts and and the paranormal and and 344 00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:30,240 and the New World Order and government 345 00:17:37,460 --> 00:17:32,520 conspiracies and all of that some of the 346 00:17:41,539 --> 00:17:37,470 Illuminati now it's okay to disagree 347 00:17:43,970 --> 00:17:41,549 with that or to to change your mind or 348 00:17:50,409 --> 00:17:43,980 to figure stuff out that's what life is 349 00:17:53,330 --> 00:17:50,419 about but what I used to enjoy was 350 00:17:56,419 --> 00:17:53,340 listening to Joe asked the questions 351 00:17:59,870 --> 00:17:56,429 that were making his brain and his mind 352 00:18:03,530 --> 00:17:59,880 tick it was it was great you felt like 353 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:03,540 you know you were there and three hours 354 00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:06,650 man you know of just no comer just just 355 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:11,460 awesomeness and he had that quest that 356 00:18:17,539 --> 00:18:13,380 quest for truth you know trying to 357 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:17,549 satisfy himself but he's gone from that 358 00:18:26,169 --> 00:18:22,980 to well he's kind of dickish you know 359 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:26,179 and I'm not digging it anymore 360 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:32,340 he has lost respect for himself and his 361 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:36,450 guests and his producer and anybody 362 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:37,710 that's on that show anybody that's 363 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:41,010 working with him because you know it's a 364 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:44,730 team effort and it's it's gone that way 365 00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:49,410 and I don't understand why and with them 366 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:52,320 long okay now and I'm not defending Tom 367 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:56,850 you know Tom is Tom tom has got a lot of 368 00:19:00,680 --> 00:18:58,530 stuff out there to discuss with the 369 00:19:02,270 --> 00:19:00,690 public and he's got things that he's got 370 00:19:04,909 --> 00:19:02,280 to get worked out with everybody and I 371 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:04,919 get that he's got it he's got a mountain 372 00:19:10,130 --> 00:19:07,049 in front of him but that's the way 373 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:10,140 beside the point when I have a guest on 374 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:15,510 this show they are a guest they're a 375 00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:19,770 guest and I treat them with respect the 376 00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:23,150 same as if they were in my very own home 377 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:26,940 that's what you do you don't you show 378 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:29,010 your guests respect if you are going to 379 00:19:33,610 --> 00:19:31,130 invite somebody on the show 380 00:19:35,169 --> 00:19:33,620 you're not inviting them look dude man 381 00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:35,179 I'm gonna bite John I'm just gonna slap 382 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:38,000 you around you know you wouldn't have 383 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:39,710 any guests would you right 384 00:19:48,669 --> 00:19:43,730 so by inviting somebody to be on the 385 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:48,679 show they're expecting a good time you 386 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:50,450 know it can be intense it can be strong 387 00:19:55,529 --> 00:19:52,580 you can disagree you can debate you can 388 00:20:00,240 --> 00:19:55,539 do all of that but you do that with 389 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:00,250 respect do that with respect you don't 390 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:05,210 disrespect somebody so with with Tom and 391 00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:07,250 I've seen this with with other guests on 392 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:11,480 the show but with Tom Joe was a predator 393 00:20:18,629 --> 00:20:14,570 and he just don't do that 394 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:18,639 as a host I was so uncomfortable in 395 00:20:26,409 --> 00:20:21,830 watching the interview now I would love 396 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:26,419 for a Joe to take Tom to task and to to 397 00:20:32,590 --> 00:20:27,769 ask those questions 398 00:20:36,909 --> 00:20:32,600 I certainly have but but you're not 399 00:20:41,019 --> 00:20:36,919 there you know Rogan smelled blood he 400 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:41,029 smelled blood and this thing took over 401 00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:43,730 Rogan and it was uncomfortable to watch 402 00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:47,960 Rogan it was like he was trolling him he 403 00:20:53,139 --> 00:20:50,509 was marching around him and kicking him 404 00:20:57,070 --> 00:20:53,149 you know just just a predator looking 405 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:57,080 gangs like man it was just gnarly you 406 00:21:02,019 --> 00:20:58,250 don't do that 407 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:02,029 with a guest everything that was done on 408 00:21:07,779 --> 00:21:03,740 that show could have been done with 409 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:07,789 respect Rogan looking at his producer 410 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:09,110 raising when eyebrow 411 00:21:15,310 --> 00:21:12,740 laughing you know just talking over Tom 412 00:21:18,009 --> 00:21:15,320 talking down to Tom you don't do that 413 00:21:21,249 --> 00:21:18,019 with a guest you just don't do it and 414 00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:21,259 the old Rogan wouldn't have done that 415 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:28,000 right but he and the the jokes the 416 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:32,330 laughing you know he relished he 417 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:35,210 relished in it and looking over to 418 00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:37,850 producer like that in front of Tom 419 00:21:44,030 --> 00:21:40,260 fronting him off 420 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:44,040 is it's a lack of respect that is not 421 00:21:53,330 --> 00:21:48,900 what a host does and I am NOT wrong here 422 00:21:56,540 --> 00:21:53,340 so it messed with my emotions it messed 423 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:56,550 with me you know it's I do the exact 424 00:22:02,630 --> 00:21:59,490 opposite on the show the exact opposite 425 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:02,640 you know I have no problem challenging 426 00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:06,150 anybody man you remember I'll say this 427 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:07,980 really quick I had Jeffrey Meldrum on 428 00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:11,490 you know Idaho State University Bigfoot 429 00:22:18,590 --> 00:22:13,380 and I had said to him at the very front 430 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:18,600 of the show I said hey man I'm on the 431 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:20,730 fence about Bigfoot so I need you 432 00:22:25,670 --> 00:22:23,700 tonight to convince me and he laughed 433 00:22:27,770 --> 00:22:25,680 about it and we had one of the most 434 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:27,780 engaging fun conversations I've had ever 435 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:31,200 had on this show and it's okay there's a 436 00:22:39,050 --> 00:22:35,730 way to handle it and to do it rogon know 437 00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:39,060 and I remember I remember a couple of 438 00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:43,680 years ago when Rogan commented on the 439 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:47,160 trolls on YouTube on his YouTube page 440 00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:49,290 and he would sit and read these trolls 441 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:52,260 and comments and me and you know and I 442 00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:54,210 just have to stop doing it you know I'm 443 00:23:00,050 --> 00:22:55,620 thinking about something he's doing 444 00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:00,060 exactly what he complains about funny 445 00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:04,140 guy man the the election show that they 446 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:05,820 did at the Laugh Factory with Bill burr 447 00:23:10,940 --> 00:23:08,190 man that was that was classic comedy 448 00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:10,950 Rogan can really really be a funny guy 449 00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:12,840 and when he talks about his kids and his 450 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:15,240 cats and his things in his life it's all 451 00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:18,570 good but it's fake you know the guy that 452 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:21,870 was doing this thing with Tom was wrong 453 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,050 and he did the same thing with Giorgio 454 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:28,320 tsoukalos did the exact same thing with 455 00:23:31,820 --> 00:23:29,850 Giorgio and you don't do that with your 456 00:23:34,970 --> 00:23:31,830 towards you it's just a nice guy why do 457 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:34,980 that why question Giorgio well you got 458 00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:36,300 to show called ancient aliens you don't 459 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:37,980 know anything about UFOs no I don't 460 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:40,830 study you a little bit you just don't do 461 00:23:46,670 --> 00:23:43,830 that so I watched the DeLonge interview 462 00:23:49,130 --> 00:23:46,680 I had to do it I wanted to see what Tom 463 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:49,140 had to say I wanted to to collect 464 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:51,330 information in all I wanted to do and it 465 00:23:53,420 --> 00:23:52,980 was just uncomfortable 466 00:23:56,090 --> 00:23:53,430 liyan 467 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:56,100 higher thing it was nearly unwatchable 468 00:24:00,050 --> 00:23:58,290 and it wasn't unwatchable because of de 469 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:00,060 logged along had his own issues but he's 470 00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:01,650 the guest on the show it was 471 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:05,280 uncomfortable because of Rogan and him 472 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:07,650 being a predator him being a great white 473 00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:09,630 shark that smelled blood he's ready to 474 00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:14,400 go bite the seal it was nuts nuts when 475 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:15,780 they tried to talk about to the stars 476 00:24:20,210 --> 00:24:17,190 and just questioning questioning 477 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:20,220 slapping slapping quite slap slap you 478 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:22,230 know alien technology wouldn't you see 479 00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:24,510 what did you touch what did you see but 480 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:26,790 you know let me guess man uh you can't 481 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:29,310 tell me who they are that joke got so 482 00:24:38,090 --> 00:24:33,210 old so quick raising his eyebrow looking 483 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:38,100 at his producer ah man I got to take a 484 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:40,770 break man I got to take a break on Rogan 485 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:45,200 there was a time when I reached out 486 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:46,770 reached out 487 00:24:50,510 --> 00:24:48,450 Warda come on fade to black ain't gonna 488 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:50,520 happen now it's just not gonna happen 489 00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:53,550 we're too small of a show I understand 490 00:24:59,720 --> 00:24:56,280 that he would have to throw us a bone to 491 00:25:02,300 --> 00:24:59,730 come on this show but we have we have 492 00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:02,310 the same audience okay you know a large 493 00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:04,500 crossover audience we're asking the same 494 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:07,470 questions there there are we have many 495 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,630 friends between us it would be a really 496 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:12,000 cool show to have them on you know what 497 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:15,950 I am NOT even interested and it's sad 498 00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:20,690 you know sometimes and I I had said this 499 00:25:24,770 --> 00:25:23,430 how man I was at Reid and I were out 500 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:24,780 with some friends couple of weeks ago 501 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:27,690 and this subject came up what happens 502 00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:29,490 when you meet somebody some star 503 00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:31,380 somebody that you respected looked up to 504 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:35,340 then he just find out you know that they 505 00:25:42,610 --> 00:25:38,310 ain't who you thought they was you know 506 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:42,620 what happens you don't get that switch 507 00:25:49,970 --> 00:25:46,290 turned back on it just doesn't come back 508 00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,980 you move on you move on you know and 509 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:51,600 that's why I'm happy with this it's 510 00:25:58,460 --> 00:25:55,370 where I am at and it breaks my heart 511 00:26:00,740 --> 00:25:58,470 breaks my heart I think the true colors 512 00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:00,750 were shown I don't know what got him to 513 00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:03,180 this point but it was painful to watch 514 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:07,380 it was painful to watch and the thing is 515 00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:11,370 with Tom DeLonge he's a he's a he's a 516 00:26:14,570 --> 00:26:13,620 pop punk guitar player he's a great 517 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:14,580 singer 518 00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:16,770 he's a rock star he comes from a 519 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:19,620 different mindset you know Joe Rogan is 520 00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:21,570 smart man 521 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:26,100 uber smart smart guy brain always moving 522 00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:30,450 always moving and it with a guy like Joe 523 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:33,270 up against somebody with the personality 524 00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:36,090 that tom has or were giorgio or other 525 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:37,500 get you know just people like that with 526 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:40,080 that kind of personality and you want to 527 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:41,130 turn on the heat 528 00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:44,610 Joe's no match for anybody he can slap 529 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:47,460 anybody around he's very very very smart 530 00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:51,510 and you need to realize that as as a 531 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:54,539 show host you know you just don't do 532 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:56,970 it's like something was triggered like I 533 00:27:02,600 --> 00:26:58,770 said man it was like he smelled blood 534 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,610 and then he couldn't stop all right so 535 00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:04,320 enough of that I just wanted to let 536 00:27:09,769 --> 00:27:06,299 everybody know why I did the tweet and 537 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:09,779 what led up to that you know I watched 538 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:13,460 that interview twice watched it twice 539 00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:17,130 sad sad I gotta let him go I gotta let 540 00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:19,470 him go for a couple of years I'll come 541 00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:21,630 back in a couple of years I'll come back 542 00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:24,960 but right now I just need to chill and 543 00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:27,679 with that let's get out of here because 544 00:27:33,889 --> 00:27:31,020 it's darkness Dave Schrader I'd say 545 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:33,899 depart because its Hallows Eve and you 546 00:27:39,049 --> 00:27:35,970 know he's the most most booked guy in 547 00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:39,059 America on Halloween couldn't get him on 548 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:42,110 the show for tomorrow so there you go 549 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:45,360 but we got him tonight we're gonna sit 550 00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:46,559 around that campfire and tell some 551 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:47,940 stories tonight this is fade to black 552 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:49,350 I'm yours Jimmy Church follow me on 553 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00:32:07,450 everybody tomorrow night's Halloween we 626 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:09,490 had to get the most booked man of 627 00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:12,340 October on the show tonight couldn't do 628 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:15,280 it tomorrow night he's too busy and that 629 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:19,210 is darkness Dave Schrader that's right 630 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:21,010 he's the host of the long-running 631 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:23,410 paranormal talk radio show darkness 632 00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:25,480 radio now heads up beyond the darkness 633 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:28,300 part of the Jericho Network on podcast 634 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:30,970 one that's right he's also regular 635 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:33,310 fill-in host with yours truly over on 636 00:32:38,430 --> 00:32:36,070 coast to coast am he has lived a life 637 00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:38,440 immersed in the paranormal from ghostly 638 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:40,120 visitations to grown up in a haunted 639 00:32:44,970 --> 00:32:42,640 house Bigfoot sightings and of course 640 00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:44,980 UFO encounters and this is what he does 641 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:47,980 all the time he just seems to be at the 642 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:49,930 right place right at the right time his 643 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:52,000 overwhelming fear of death keeps him 644 00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:54,520 constantly seeking answers and trying to 645 00:32:59,070 --> 00:32:56,140 understand his place in the universe and 646 00:33:01,740 --> 00:32:59,080 in the afterlife tonight on Halloween 647 00:33:03,630 --> 00:33:01,750 Eve Hallows Eve Dave is gonna tell us 648 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:03,640 the best of his Frightmare creature 649 00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:06,250 tales yes he is the guy you don't want 650 00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:07,960 telling stories around the campfire or 651 00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:11,380 maybe you do right maybe he is the 652 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:13,720 perfect choice well tonight Dave 653 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:15,970 promised he's gonna bring his AGame with 654 00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:18,430 a money-back guarantee and I would like 655 00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:20,710 to welcome back to fade to black the one 656 00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:23,380 and only darkness Dave Schrader Dave 657 00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:24,790 good evening my friend how are you 658 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:27,160 always great to be here Jimmy thanks for 659 00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:29,230 having me on the show man you know I 660 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:31,900 said earlier at the beginning of the 661 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:33,010 show I said I'm not gonna do 662 00:33:36,030 --> 00:33:34,360 host-to-host I'm not gonna say it 663 00:33:38,010 --> 00:33:36,040 tonight I'm not gonna say ghost to ghost 664 00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:38,020 I'm not gonna say coast to coast we're 665 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:40,870 not gonna do that are we Dave from one 666 00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:42,490 host to another host you're right we're 667 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:44,140 not going we're just not gonna do it 668 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:46,510 that's my promise I just really enjoy 669 00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:47,530 having you on the show in the 670 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:50,580 conversations and one of the things that 671 00:33:56,910 --> 00:33:53,020 you do really well not only on darkness 672 00:34:01,920 --> 00:33:56,920 but over a coast we depend on you for 673 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:01,930 the darkness right you you you you do 674 00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:03,580 the investigation so you're out there 675 00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:05,320 your ghost hunting you're you're looking 676 00:34:09,390 --> 00:34:06,790 for a Bigfoot you're looking you're 677 00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,400 questioning what happens you know after 678 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:10,960 our death and you're looking into all of 679 00:34:15,149 --> 00:34:12,610 these things constant 680 00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:15,159 and you're the one that we turn to for 681 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:17,230 all of that but I kind of asked you and 682 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:19,240 I don't think I ever have what started 683 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,950 this twisted life of yours 684 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:22,960 does something really bad happen as a 685 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,990 child I mean what's necessary it's kind 686 00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:27,520 of the opposite like we talked on I 687 00:34:30,659 --> 00:34:29,080 think one of the first times I was on 688 00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:30,669 I've just been immersed in it it's been 689 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:32,919 around me my whole life from having 690 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:34,540 ghostly encounters with my grandmother 691 00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:36,730 to having a Bigfoot encounter in Foley 692 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:39,550 Alabama when I was about 11 or 12 UFO 693 00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:42,940 sightings in 2006 and just immersing 694 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:46,270 myself in this I become open and kind of 695 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:48,490 a sponge to it it just it's attracted to 696 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:50,740 me I I'm not always out seeking it I get 697 00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:53,290 things that happen around me as a matter 698 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,340 of fact if we want to start off with 699 00:34:58,890 --> 00:34:57,280 some creepy stories and we'll get into 700 00:35:02,610 --> 00:34:58,900 some of the Frightmare creatures I've 701 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:02,620 had for probably about four or five 702 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:04,450 years what I believe is some kind of 703 00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:08,050 entity living in my closet and it's real 704 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:09,460 easy I know for listeners out there to 705 00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:11,110 kind of roll their eyes probably you as 706 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:13,270 well saying well hmmm what more high 707 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:15,550 ain't right but here's the deal again 708 00:35:19,290 --> 00:35:17,650 I'm a skeptical believer Jimmy I've had 709 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:19,300 experiences but I also question 710 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:22,210 everything ad nauseam I try to break it 711 00:35:26,730 --> 00:35:24,310 down and was I too tired was they this 712 00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,740 was I that well I noticed it when my son 713 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:28,240 might my kids they go away for the 714 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:30,790 summer to be with their mother and I'm 715 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:33,340 home alone a lot and I had a friend over 716 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:35,260 and we were watching a movie when we 717 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:37,510 suddenly heard footsteps stomping around 718 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:40,810 upstairs and and I looked at her and she 719 00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:43,030 looked at me and we just kind of shook 720 00:35:47,130 --> 00:35:44,350 it off and went back to watching the 721 00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:47,140 movie and from our vantage point on the 722 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:49,300 couch you could see where the stairs 723 00:35:54,330 --> 00:35:51,100 come down from the downstairs and empty 724 00:35:56,730 --> 00:35:54,340 out into the dining room and this small 725 00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:56,740 shadowy childlike figure ran right down 726 00:36:00,210 --> 00:35:58,720 those stairs and out into my dining room 727 00:36:01,830 --> 00:36:00,220 and we both stopped and turned and 728 00:36:05,460 --> 00:36:01,840 looked at each other and I go did you 729 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:05,470 just see that she was yeah it was a kid 730 00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:07,570 sized shadow just ran into your living 731 00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:10,990 or into your dining room so when that 732 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:14,080 happens right what do you you know I 733 00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:15,970 mean that's dad I would any 734 00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:18,100 self-respecting man in my position would 735 00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:19,150 do I said do you want to go out and 736 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:20,860 check that for me yeah exactly 737 00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:22,050 you know when you 738 00:36:26,930 --> 00:36:24,270 right because when you get the real 739 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,940 confirmation like that it's easy to back 740 00:36:31,010 --> 00:36:28,800 off and go okay it's just me I'm nuts 741 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:31,020 I've got a I've got a floatie in my eye 742 00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:32,910 you know whatever it is that you're 743 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:34,260 gonna make that you're gonna rationalize 744 00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:37,110 it and and and try to keep yourself sane 745 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:40,980 but when you have a witness now yeah is 746 00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:43,740 that is that does that elevate the level 747 00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:49,470 of scary again it's it's more of a shock 748 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:51,840 and awe kind of experience I I wasn't 749 00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:53,490 afraid she wasn't afraid it was just 750 00:36:58,100 --> 00:36:56,190 more of holy gosh did we just see what 751 00:37:00,830 --> 00:36:58,110 we thought we saw and run both saw it 752 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,840 simultaneously so it wasn't just a trick 753 00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:02,640 of the eyes now I'm one of those two 754 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:04,200 question I mean I miss I'm already in a 755 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:06,570 dark room watching a TV and we're 756 00:37:11,540 --> 00:37:08,850 watching some I probably pay her normal 757 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:11,550 or a horror movie something and you've 758 00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:12,840 got lights flickering and things 759 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:15,750 changing so you will get some of that 760 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:18,510 effect that your eyes can be tricked but 761 00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:20,850 both of us heard the footsteps both of 762 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:22,440 us turned and looked as this thing ran 763 00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:24,930 down the stairs and right out past us or 764 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:27,720 not past us but past our view so that 765 00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:29,130 there was definitely something different 766 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:31,230 than just flickering of lights and a 767 00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:32,850 floater in your eye that both of us 768 00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:34,920 happen to share at the same moment so it 769 00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,270 was it was pretty exciting and it was 770 00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:37,680 cool and we just both sat there and kind 771 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,540 of talked about it and I went and looked 772 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:40,800 and of course there was nothing there 773 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:44,040 right what is it about one of my 774 00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:48,750 favorite things to do is have crazy 775 00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:52,140 dreams after you know really good scary 776 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:54,990 movie of you know falling asleep 777 00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:58,050 listening to creepypasta right getting a 778 00:38:04,340 --> 00:37:59,700 bunch of those strung together in a row 779 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:04,350 and and and going into dreamland you 780 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:06,570 know that you know the upside down going 781 00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:10,770 there why is it why do we enjoy that why 782 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:13,430 do we like getting scared 783 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:16,920 listen it's that it's that basic raw 784 00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:19,710 nature in us when something changes your 785 00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:22,590 paradigm it shakes you alive right it 786 00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:25,950 fear reminds you that you're alive it 787 00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:27,600 awakens different aspects of your 788 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,300 personality of your brain of your senses 789 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:32,400 and it's exciting as a matter of fact 790 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:33,690 they tell you Jimmy that if you really 791 00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:35,910 want to have a great first date you 792 00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:37,500 should take your date to a scary movie 793 00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:40,619 or theme park do things that are going 794 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:43,500 to boost your adrenaline level and Fear 795 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:45,930 Factor because that binds you and bonds 796 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,890 you together so when when dating if 797 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:51,839 you're looking for that perfect way to 798 00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:53,460 kind of get that first connection going 799 00:38:56,359 --> 00:38:54,839 that when the chemicals start bubbling 800 00:38:58,549 --> 00:38:56,369 man that's a great time when you've got 801 00:39:02,589 --> 00:38:58,559 that that fear and that kind of relying 802 00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:02,599 on each other mentality it actually is 803 00:39:07,309 --> 00:39:05,400 and again this is science Jimmy not just 804 00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:07,319 a radio show host talking but right the 805 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:09,420 fact is it's better for the beginnings 806 00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:11,010 of the relationship better for bonding 807 00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:13,500 better for sexual tension so it's kind 808 00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:15,750 of a cool deal I think we just live for 809 00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:18,030 that inherent rush to feel something 810 00:39:24,049 --> 00:39:21,270 outside of just our daily routine both 811 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:24,059 of my daughters as a parent it was 812 00:39:29,809 --> 00:39:26,910 interesting to watch them grow up and 813 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:29,819 they both did the exact same thing they 814 00:39:34,579 --> 00:39:32,730 went from maybe even simultaneously 815 00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:34,589 there watching the Animaniacs or they're 816 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:36,569 watching Dexter's Laboratory right the 817 00:39:42,049 --> 00:39:39,210 Powerpuff Girls and they're doing all of 818 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:42,059 that stuff at the age of five four five 819 00:39:50,299 --> 00:39:48,089 six but they also demanded from me scary 820 00:39:52,099 --> 00:39:50,309 movies movies that I thought were too 821 00:39:55,730 --> 00:39:52,109 scary for me as an adult 822 00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,740 sure for them the scarier the better the 823 00:40:01,130 --> 00:39:58,079 scarier the better if they if they 824 00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:01,140 screamed and they did it a lot the 825 00:40:06,109 --> 00:40:03,569 better and and this was like this 826 00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:06,119 natural this is just part of growing up 827 00:40:10,970 --> 00:40:08,220 and I was watching you know my daughters 828 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:10,980 do this in a natural way they really 829 00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:13,770 enjoyed getting the crap scared out of 830 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:15,960 themselves and they they they asked me 831 00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:17,849 to do it every single night the scarier 832 00:40:22,819 --> 00:40:20,700 the movie the better and see in a lot of 833 00:40:24,859 --> 00:40:22,829 cases people are so addicted to their 834 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:24,869 technology that they become almost numb 835 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:26,460 to things I mean you could tell that 836 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,170 just by the scary nature of the world we 837 00:40:31,819 --> 00:40:29,760 live in and the news that circulates 838 00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:31,829 around us it's scarier than any horror 839 00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:34,980 movie that we could watch but I think 840 00:40:39,849 --> 00:40:37,430 when the kids break from that 841 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:39,859 and there with dad and they want to 842 00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:41,510 watch something scary it's that moment 843 00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:44,000 again it's a bonding binding moment 844 00:40:48,549 --> 00:40:47,089 because they know they're safe they know 845 00:40:51,099 --> 00:40:48,559 you're going to protect them and take 846 00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:51,109 care of them and then they still get to 847 00:40:55,150 --> 00:40:53,569 have that thrill of a it's kind of taboo 848 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:55,160 they shouldn't they probably shouldn't 849 00:40:58,569 --> 00:40:57,170 be watching this right other kids their 850 00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,579 age don't get a chance to see these 851 00:41:03,099 --> 00:41:01,280 things and they get that little thrill 852 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:03,109 then they get the thrill of seeing 853 00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:05,569 things are shaking their paradigm and 854 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:08,030 comfort level of what they believe to be 855 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:10,010 real or not real and then they've got a 856 00:41:13,390 --> 00:41:11,450 dad who can talk to him about the 857 00:41:15,819 --> 00:41:13,400 paranormal and the supernatural and and 858 00:41:17,799 --> 00:41:15,829 open their eyes to some of this while 859 00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:17,809 sheltering and protecting them I just 860 00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,940 did a show it was funny two weeks ago 861 00:41:24,579 --> 00:41:22,160 just as I'm about to go to record my 862 00:41:28,270 --> 00:41:24,589 guests calls sicker than a dog cannot do 863 00:41:30,819 --> 00:41:28,280 the show and I'm like oh no I've got 864 00:41:34,290 --> 00:41:30,829 absolutely no time to book another guest 865 00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:34,300 and my two daughters who are 10 and 11 866 00:41:38,109 --> 00:41:36,380 both looked at me and they said well why 867 00:41:39,819 --> 00:41:38,119 don't we do the show with you we'll talk 868 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:39,829 about the paranormal oh how cool is that 869 00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,650 so I sat down and I said well let's run 870 00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:44,000 this experiment and I'll tell you what 871 00:41:48,190 --> 00:41:46,670 to me I mean I had this fun conversation 872 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:48,200 with my two daughters and we had a 873 00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:50,990 chance to just talk and and be open with 874 00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:53,420 one another and I've had such a great 875 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:55,630 response for my audience that loved 876 00:42:00,579 --> 00:41:58,010 hearing their stories in hearing me 877 00:42:03,609 --> 00:42:00,589 interact with them and their theories on 878 00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:03,619 some of the points of death and ghosts 879 00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:06,049 and things we're really amazing and they 880 00:42:09,339 --> 00:42:07,400 were eye-opening because it's coming 881 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:09,349 from a kid's perspective and sometimes 882 00:42:13,210 --> 00:42:11,170 we forget that they're little people 883 00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:13,220 we're here to protect them and watch 884 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:15,109 over them but they have their own brains 885 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:17,030 and thought processes too and they're 886 00:42:20,799 --> 00:42:18,890 not always impressed upon by what we 887 00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:20,809 believe and it's fascinating when we 888 00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:22,910 shut up long enough to ask kids what do 889 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:25,190 you think this is why do you think this 890 00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:27,710 happens that kind of it gives you a 891 00:42:31,690 --> 00:42:29,089 really great insight into kind of a 892 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:31,700 clearer mind that may not be as jaded or 893 00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:33,530 tainted as those of us that have been 894 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:37,640 around a lot longer did you have who 895 00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:39,770 taught you how to tell a story because 896 00:42:44,829 --> 00:42:41,990 you do it really really well did you 897 00:42:46,089 --> 00:42:44,839 have did you have that crazy uncle you 898 00:42:49,210 --> 00:42:46,099 know growing up did you have somebody 899 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:49,220 that taught to the art of the story you 900 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:51,410 know I think what I really enjoyed doing 901 00:42:56,890 --> 00:42:53,210 was watching my grandfather he was in 902 00:43:01,059 --> 00:42:56,900 World War two he was a paratrooper with 903 00:43:04,329 --> 00:43:01,069 the 82nd Airborne Division he was just a 904 00:43:06,490 --> 00:43:04,339 great person overall people loved him 905 00:43:10,059 --> 00:43:06,500 and I would love to watch him tell a 906 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,069 story because he would he would glaze 907 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,599 over it was like you were watching like 908 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:13,760 a movie and they'd show Harrison Ford as 909 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:15,770 he starts to talk about what happened to 910 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:17,510 himself as young Indiana Jones and you 911 00:43:21,339 --> 00:43:19,010 just see that kind of glazed over look 912 00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:21,349 and you knew his mind was back there and 913 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:23,390 that was the kind of response my 914 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:26,329 grandfather would have and I just loved 915 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:28,130 watching the way he would tell stories 916 00:43:34,059 --> 00:43:31,760 and then my mom had that gift and then 917 00:43:35,799 --> 00:43:34,069 she began it to me and that's kind of 918 00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:35,809 been where we go then when you're 919 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:38,359 fascinated and you love this stuff it's 920 00:43:42,279 --> 00:43:39,950 easy to be excited about it and telling 921 00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:42,289 the story I I like to milk every nuance 922 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:43,880 of the stories because it's it's 923 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:45,770 fascinating and you never know which 924 00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:47,450 aspect of the story is going to resonate 925 00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:49,910 with you or with your listeners I used 926 00:43:57,210 --> 00:43:54,049 to in Chicago when I was growing up if 927 00:43:59,380 --> 00:43:57,220 you know the very tender ages you know 928 00:44:01,870 --> 00:43:59,390 kindergarten you know through that pier 929 00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:01,880 Friday nights they had Creature Features 930 00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:04,880 right and which I'm sure was syndicated 931 00:44:08,529 --> 00:44:06,529 across the country effort everybody 932 00:44:12,849 --> 00:44:08,539 mentioned they they had a local version 933 00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:12,859 of Creature Features but I the original 934 00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:17,000 mummy right the original line walking a 935 00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,180 half quarter mile of an I don't know 936 00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:22,880 right it's literally walking around in 937 00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:24,380 slow motion that you could completely 938 00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:28,910 outrun terrified me and fully enjoyed 939 00:44:34,089 --> 00:44:31,960 all of those original 1930s 940 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:34,099 black-and-white Frankenstein and the 941 00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:35,990 Wolfman and all all of those you know 942 00:44:41,890 --> 00:44:38,990 really scared me pleasure if I fast 943 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:41,900 forward two of the scariest movies for 944 00:44:49,809 --> 00:44:47,690 me to this day scare me are the original 945 00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:49,819 Nightmare on Elm Street in fact all of 946 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:51,470 them were great by the way right and 947 00:44:56,829 --> 00:44:53,690 this shining which is another modern 948 00:45:01,120 --> 00:44:56,839 movie you know it's in the 70s but but 949 00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:01,130 truly terrifying movies those are like 950 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:03,700 my top two for you 951 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,770 where do you go to what's your go-to 952 00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:06,880 scary movie 953 00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:09,070 well Jimmy I grew up in the Chicago land 954 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:12,070 area myself so I remember that creepy 955 00:45:19,819 --> 00:45:16,240 surf guitar start of doom doom doom when 956 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:19,829 they would go to the to the channel 32 957 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:21,849 chilling theater or whatever they would 958 00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:23,290 call it that that specific year they 959 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:25,000 used to kind of flip it around and have 960 00:45:28,290 --> 00:45:26,290 different titles for it then of course 961 00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:28,300 we got Sun of spend ghuli that took over 962 00:45:35,099 --> 00:45:31,000 and began hosting the horror movies but 963 00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:35,109 my one of my favorite remembrances was 964 00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:37,900 my dad waking me up on Halloween at 965 00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:40,270 about 10:30 11 o'clock at night and he 966 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:42,070 said get up we're gonna end those school 967 00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:43,150 the next day and he said you're gonna 968 00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:44,440 watch this well let's go watch this 969 00:45:49,319 --> 00:45:46,300 movie together and it was Night of the 970 00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:49,329 Living Dead a midnight showing Wow Wow 971 00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:52,030 and we went in and we turned on the TV 972 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:54,790 and we turned off the lights and I go 973 00:45:57,540 --> 00:45:56,079 what is this and he goes you just gotta 974 00:46:00,089 --> 00:45:57,550 watch it and it was the only movie that 975 00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:00,099 ever scared him he told me and I watched 976 00:46:04,050 --> 00:46:01,630 that movie riveted and it had 977 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:04,060 commercials and I was still freaked out 978 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:05,890 by everything I was seeing right and it 979 00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:07,500 was it was because it was this 980 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:10,780 claustrophobic human element and the 981 00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:12,970 enemy was the worst possible creature 982 00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:14,680 you could imagine it was us it was our 983 00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:16,630 neighbors our friends our brothers our 984 00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:18,460 loved ones right and it was scary as 985 00:46:22,829 --> 00:46:19,000 hell 986 00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:22,839 so Night of the Living Dead has always 987 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,200 been locked in my brain that way and 988 00:46:31,260 --> 00:46:28,960 then I think the original Halloween John 989 00:46:34,050 --> 00:46:31,270 Carpenter's very first one yeah yeah 990 00:46:36,030 --> 00:46:34,060 yeah great ending great ending right and 991 00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,040 that was nothing like that that had ever 992 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:38,079 been out there before and then like you 993 00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:40,390 Nightmare on Elm Street came along and I 994 00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:42,040 remember the first time I watched it my 995 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:43,599 buddy and I had to huddle around a 996 00:46:47,010 --> 00:46:45,369 black-and-white TV to watch it because 997 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:47,020 his parents were watching the color TV 998 00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:49,930 and we rented the video we plugged it in 999 00:46:54,450 --> 00:46:52,150 and in black-and-white that movie still 1000 00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:54,460 scared the hell out of me hi I watched 1001 00:47:00,089 --> 00:46:57,160 it at the theaters in Pasadena first-run 1002 00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:00,099 when it came out and I had a friend that 1003 00:47:05,579 --> 00:47:03,760 I really had trouble sleeping for a 1004 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:05,589 while after that it was just great but I 1005 00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:07,510 had a friend that worked at the mall and 1006 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:12,750 he got me that summer a Freddy Krueger 1007 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:16,329 life-size cardboard cutout that was at 1008 00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:17,530 the mall it was a prop 1009 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:20,670 right and I put it in my bathroom 1010 00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:25,570 against the back wall right and so have 1011 00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:26,710 guests over at that where's the 1012 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:30,910 bathrooms right over there man horrible 1013 00:47:35,370 --> 00:47:34,000 oh it was awesome because but at least 1014 00:47:37,530 --> 00:47:35,380 they were in the right room to have it 1015 00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:37,540 scared out of them oh man it was it was 1016 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:40,660 guaranteed you know all of us right 1017 00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:45,970 we're like we're about to go on you know 1018 00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:49,630 and it just didn't matter and that 1019 00:47:54,750 --> 00:47:52,120 summer we went back and watched that 1020 00:47:57,450 --> 00:47:54,760 movie so many times and it I think it 1021 00:48:01,290 --> 00:47:57,460 affected a generation it really really 1022 00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:01,300 was that scary it was original and it's 1023 00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:03,430 the other part of I know that we're 1024 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:04,720 going to talk about this a little bit 1025 00:48:14,190 --> 00:48:09,520 later we are all a little bit paranoid 1026 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,200 about a nightmare a scary dream right is 1027 00:48:20,490 --> 00:48:16,960 it real or is it not and if you are in a 1028 00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:20,500 really vivid dream a really vivid 1029 00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:24,190 nightmare you don't know right that's a 1030 00:48:29,970 --> 00:48:26,710 parallel world a parallel dimension it's 1031 00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:29,980 in your brain and so it's just as real 1032 00:48:34,530 --> 00:48:32,830 as anything else and we are all paranoid 1033 00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:34,540 about that you know what is real and 1034 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:37,060 what is not and that's what Nightmare on 1035 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:41,260 Elm Stand Spades it when I think of what 1036 00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:43,690 they did really well to that resonated 1037 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:46,060 with so many of us a nightmare is bad 1038 00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:48,850 enough right we can all agree and then 1039 00:48:52,140 --> 00:48:50,080 when you wake up there's that sense of 1040 00:48:55,110 --> 00:48:52,150 relief of God thank you I'm out of that 1041 00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:55,120 oh holy God that was horrible and 1042 00:49:01,350 --> 00:48:58,570 there's that relief but the true 1043 00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:01,360 nightmare is the nightmare within the 1044 00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:03,880 nightmare meaning that you are somewhat 1045 00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:06,100 lucid and know you're in a nightmare but 1046 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:08,590 you can't find your way out you realize 1047 00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:11,410 oh my god I'm dreaming this is a 1048 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:13,240 nightmare and then you think at that 1049 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:14,470 point you would have some kind of 1050 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:17,080 control but you don't the killer 1051 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,510 keeps coming the volcano still erupts 1052 00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:21,760 the tornado touches down you cannot 1053 00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:25,900 escape that force and that to me has 1054 00:49:30,740 --> 00:49:28,270 always been the type of Nightmare I find 1055 00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:30,750 a hundred times more terrifying be 1056 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:32,910 because I'm aware of the fact that I'm 1057 00:49:36,110 --> 00:49:35,130 locked in a nightmare and I don't know 1058 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:36,120 how to get out of it 1059 00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:37,770 and one can't talk your way out of it 1060 00:49:43,070 --> 00:49:39,870 you can't rationalize your way out of it 1061 00:49:45,230 --> 00:49:43,080 you just have to pray to somehow get it 1062 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:45,240 woken there's something natural that 1063 00:49:51,140 --> 00:49:48,570 happens when that it because that is the 1064 00:49:52,310 --> 00:49:51,150 case with every nightmare you don't it 1065 00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:52,320 doesn't have an end 1066 00:49:57,260 --> 00:49:55,140 you don't outrun anybody you know you 1067 00:50:01,400 --> 00:49:57,270 are continuously being chased or 1068 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:01,410 whatever it is you're continuously going 1069 00:50:04,550 --> 00:50:03,210 through the dark halls of the dark and 1070 00:50:06,260 --> 00:50:04,560 you're not getting out of the house 1071 00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:06,270 you're not getting you're not getting 1072 00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:09,270 away you just don't do it it continues 1073 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:12,300 and continues and continues that has 1074 00:50:16,850 --> 00:50:14,610 something to do with us as humans 1075 00:50:19,310 --> 00:50:16,860 doesn't it because we all experience 1076 00:50:21,860 --> 00:50:19,320 your same form of nightmare well and I 1077 00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:21,870 just had dr. Michael Lennox on coast to 1078 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:23,910 coast with me on Friday night and it was 1079 00:50:27,770 --> 00:50:25,860 about nightmares and we took callers and 1080 00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:27,780 he was able to break down nightmares and 1081 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:29,190 one thing that we started to learn is 1082 00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:31,050 that nightmares are really actually a 1083 00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:33,390 very cathartic thing for us as humans 1084 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:36,390 there may be a lot of things that you 1085 00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:39,810 and I do as parents and worries and 1086 00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:41,940 concerns that consume us but we have to 1087 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:43,320 push them away because we have to make a 1088 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,690 living we have to make appearances we 1089 00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:47,280 have to make dinner we have to do the 1090 00:50:52,130 --> 00:50:50,280 laundry and we push away these these 1091 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:52,140 fears and we push away these 1092 00:50:57,050 --> 00:50:55,650 insecurities and there they're nagging 1093 00:50:59,140 --> 00:50:57,060 at us so when you have these nightmares 1094 00:51:03,350 --> 00:50:59,150 a lot of times that's the way to purge 1095 00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:03,360 these negative feelings and fears out of 1096 00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:05,880 your system in a healthy way so that you 1097 00:51:10,310 --> 00:51:08,280 can continue to just live every day and 1098 00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:10,320 you know I you started off I've got a 1099 00:51:14,090 --> 00:51:12,030 huge fear of death I've had it since I 1100 00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:14,100 was as little as I can remember four or 1101 00:51:17,690 --> 00:51:16,320 five years old I remember lying there in 1102 00:51:20,210 --> 00:51:17,700 bed terrified to go to sleep because 1103 00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:20,220 what if I don't wake up what if it's 1104 00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,200 over what if the light just goes out and 1105 00:51:26,810 --> 00:51:24,480 there's nothing and I remember having 1106 00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:26,820 that and I'm I'll be 50 here on November 1107 00:51:34,850 --> 00:51:31,080 22nd and I still have those fears I used 1108 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:34,860 to have this dream it ended about of all 1109 00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:36,930 I know exactly when it ended it ended 1110 00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:40,020 about seven years ago I used to have 1111 00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:44,500 this dream about trying to get dad 1112 00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:49,030 underground through dark into a room 1113 00:51:55,950 --> 00:51:53,860 where I had a studio and trying to get 1114 00:51:58,740 --> 00:51:55,960 down there trying to get that to escape 1115 00:52:00,830 --> 00:51:58,750 some bad stuff that is going on above 1116 00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:00,840 ground I'm trying to get to safety and 1117 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:03,400 and I had this dream forever now I have 1118 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:07,150 the bunker right right the dreams ended 1119 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:10,480 I can't get that dream back I used to 1120 00:52:13,890 --> 00:52:12,970 love that dream it was scary I don't 1121 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:13,900 have it anymore 1122 00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:16,270 isn't that weird right and well it's 1123 00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:18,460 because you partly you realized it and 1124 00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:20,320 that took away some of the stigma and 1125 00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,150 the fear from it right yes you're now 1126 00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:23,920 you've got the bunker and you're in 1127 00:52:28,890 --> 00:52:26,440 control when you're in this dark dank 1128 00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:28,900 hole this is your realm this is where 1129 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:32,380 Jimmy Church thrives and lives so it 1130 00:52:37,350 --> 00:52:34,090 you've become more than the nightmare 1131 00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:37,360 why why do we fear death though is it 1132 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:40,240 because we don't have necessarily the 1133 00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:42,310 firm answers you know nobody's come back 1134 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:44,350 with videotape from the other side all 1135 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:45,970 right so we don't well there's there's 1136 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:47,770 the basic aspect of we just don't want 1137 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:50,050 to not be here right there's a fear that 1138 00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:51,970 that's a huge one I just don't want to 1139 00:52:56,490 --> 00:52:53,950 not be around I want to see my kids and 1140 00:52:58,170 --> 00:52:56,500 as we get older fear that fear is still 1141 00:52:59,850 --> 00:52:58,180 anchored in me and there are some people 1142 00:53:02,280 --> 00:52:59,860 who don't have it at all there they 1143 00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,290 don't have that and I have I believe 1144 00:53:04,650 --> 00:53:04,000 everyone should have a healthy respect 1145 00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:04,660 for it 1146 00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:06,070 I don't believe fear should be the way 1147 00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:08,830 you should lead your life but listen 1148 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:10,750 we've explored space and we're 1149 00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:12,850 continuing to do so we've explored the 1150 00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:15,190 oceans and we continue to do so we've 1151 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:18,100 explored our globe and we continue to do 1152 00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:21,250 so but the one thing we can't fully get 1153 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:23,350 into and come back with reports as you 1154 00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:26,050 just stated is the afterlife we can live 1155 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:28,540 vicariously through those who say that 1156 00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:30,730 they've had those life-altering 1157 00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:34,000 experiences with a near-death situation 1158 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:35,740 and it's great especially when you can 1159 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:37,260 hear people that were doctors 1160 00:53:42,570 --> 00:53:40,570 neurosurgeons atheists people who went 1161 00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:42,580 into this having no belief system 1162 00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:45,150 whatsoever but in having something 1163 00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:47,380 radically different change their lives 1164 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:49,870 and they know for a fact that there is 1165 00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:51,970 now something those are the stories that 1166 00:53:57,060 --> 00:53:54,550 fascinate me so much because it took 1167 00:53:58,180 --> 00:53:57,070 somebody out of non-believing into a 1168 00:54:00,760 --> 00:53:58,190 place where the 1169 00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,770 are so comfortable with it that they 1170 00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:02,480 don't fear death anymore and that they 1171 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:05,390 know what's coming next and and then we 1172 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:08,810 have this this other part of it where we 1173 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:11,690 know that vampires can be scary 1174 00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:16,370 we know these different creatures out 1175 00:54:20,980 --> 00:54:18,590 there these mythological things but now 1176 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:20,990 we dress up on Halloween like the things 1177 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:23,690 that make us scary and we laugh and we 1178 00:54:29,860 --> 00:54:26,570 now make you know it's celebration it's 1179 00:54:32,830 --> 00:54:29,870 a it's a it's a ceremony now where we 1180 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:32,840 have fun with it it's it's a very 1181 00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:35,690 strange thing isn't it I've always been 1182 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,180 fascinated with that vampires there's 1183 00:54:43,390 --> 00:54:40,400 nothing like a guaranteed hit in 1184 00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,400 Hollywood right either do UFO movie you 1185 00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:45,920 do a movie on zombies or you do a 1186 00:54:50,860 --> 00:54:48,860 vampire flick right we right away that 1187 00:54:53,710 --> 00:54:50,870 we love getting but yet we have no 1188 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:53,720 problems putting vampire teeth on our 1189 00:55:00,250 --> 00:54:55,850 five year old son and making him look 1190 00:55:02,350 --> 00:55:00,260 like you know Eddie Munster it's because 1191 00:55:04,930 --> 00:55:02,360 those those characters are power 1192 00:55:07,690 --> 00:55:04,940 characters they have something ethereal 1193 00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:07,700 something that that goes beyond and and 1194 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:09,980 we like that we covet that we want that 1195 00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:12,170 for ourselves and we also have a healthy 1196 00:55:15,310 --> 00:55:13,910 fear and respect and and I know you're 1197 00:55:17,530 --> 00:55:15,320 probably up against a commercial but one 1198 00:55:20,650 --> 00:55:17,540 thing I'll mention to you is you know I 1199 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:20,660 had a very fascinating very real lucid 1200 00:55:25,540 --> 00:55:23,090 dream once and it made no sense other 1201 00:55:28,180 --> 00:55:25,550 than this segment I was going into like 1202 00:55:31,810 --> 00:55:28,190 a coffee shop cafe there was this old 1203 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:31,820 beat and hideously gruesome looking man 1204 00:55:34,060 --> 00:55:33,650 sitting at a table who insisted I sit 1205 00:55:37,540 --> 00:55:34,070 with him 1206 00:55:40,030 --> 00:55:37,550 and I sat down and it was so lucid Jimmy 1207 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:40,040 so clear and we began to have a talk and 1208 00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:42,530 he started talking to me about what do I 1209 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:45,200 know about angels and and I gave him my 1210 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:48,230 basic knowledge of him and he said what 1211 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:50,810 do they look like and I started to 1212 00:55:55,690 --> 00:55:52,250 describe it and he said that's where 1213 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:55,700 you've got it wrong and he goes sitting 1214 00:56:00,160 --> 00:55:57,890 before you as an angel sitting before 1215 00:56:03,070 --> 00:56:00,170 you is one that has been here since the 1216 00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:03,080 beginning of time and I'm like okay and 1217 00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:04,940 again it's flying completely in the face 1218 00:56:08,830 --> 00:56:07,670 of logic because he's hideous he's 1219 00:56:11,859 --> 00:56:08,840 beaten he's scarred 1220 00:56:13,660 --> 00:56:11,869 he said the vanity 1221 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:13,670 of the demons is what keeps them 1222 00:56:20,019 --> 00:56:17,150 beautiful and light we take the scars in 1223 00:56:22,690 --> 00:56:20,029 battle to protect the people to protect 1224 00:56:26,349 --> 00:56:22,700 your soul so we are the most beaten of 1225 00:56:29,319 --> 00:56:26,359 the realm the the true angels are that's 1226 00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:29,329 why we put out jack-o'-lanterns on 1227 00:56:36,609 --> 00:56:31,670 Halloween that's why we put up scary 1228 00:56:38,170 --> 00:56:36,619 decorations it's not to scare the kids 1229 00:56:41,170 --> 00:56:38,180 that are coming it's the idea was an 1230 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:41,180 intention was to scare away and be an 1231 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:43,910 affront to the real evil because they 1232 00:56:48,339 --> 00:56:45,650 didn't want to lay their eyes upon 1233 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:48,349 something this hideous the the the 1234 00:56:54,759 --> 00:56:51,650 demonic realm the Fallen Angels have 1235 00:56:56,769 --> 00:56:54,769 this ego this I'm better than this so 1236 00:56:59,140 --> 00:56:56,779 the whole idea was to repel them that's 1237 00:57:01,569 --> 00:56:59,150 why there are gargoyles on buildings to 1238 00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:01,579 repel evil because they don't want to 1239 00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:04,150 see it or set eyes on something horrible 1240 00:57:10,509 --> 00:57:08,809 that's a that insane that's what this 1241 00:57:14,609 --> 00:57:10,519 was this whole conversation with him it 1242 00:57:17,890 --> 00:57:14,619 was really remarkable wow wow wow and 1243 00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:17,900 the thing you know I I hear that and I 1244 00:57:24,489 --> 00:57:22,190 listen to that and it almost makes too 1245 00:57:27,099 --> 00:57:24,499 much sense and I don't want to I don't 1246 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:27,109 want to sound naive here but it does it 1247 00:57:31,539 --> 00:57:29,930 makes too much sense I'm with you and 1248 00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:31,549 that's that's exactly how I felt when I 1249 00:57:36,249 --> 00:57:33,529 woke up I felt like I had had a profound 1250 00:57:39,309 --> 00:57:36,259 experience and conversation with an 1251 00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:39,319 actual angel in some people would say 1252 00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:41,660 that Dave no obviously it was hideous it 1253 00:57:45,130 --> 00:57:42,950 was trying to fool you it's one of the 1254 00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:45,140 demonic realm right but it made complete 1255 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:46,430 and utter sense because it's if you do 1256 00:57:50,589 --> 00:57:48,170 look up the historical significance of 1257 00:57:54,009 --> 00:57:50,599 putting creepy faces on things and 1258 00:57:56,620 --> 00:57:54,019 buildings it was to scare away the 1259 00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,630 darkness because they did not want to 1260 00:58:01,690 --> 00:57:58,640 see these things they were they were 1261 00:58:03,609 --> 00:58:01,700 personally offended by looking at these 1262 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:03,619 so that's why you would post these 1263 00:58:09,130 --> 00:58:05,890 beings or these creatures and these 1264 00:58:12,009 --> 00:58:09,140 jack-o'-lanterns in places to fend off 1265 00:58:13,539 --> 00:58:12,019 the evil so it totally makes sense yeah 1266 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:13,549 yeah one of the one of the coolest 1267 00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:15,410 scariest things I always thought about 1268 00:58:21,989 --> 00:58:18,049 was the gargoyles on the outside of a 1269 00:58:24,999 --> 00:58:21,999 church it's like make any sense right 1270 00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:25,009 it's like now you know now I know this 1271 00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:25,280 is 1272 00:58:30,130 --> 00:58:26,990 fade to black our guest tonight darkness 1273 00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:30,140 Dave Schrader when we come back we're 1274 00:58:35,620 --> 00:58:32,230 gonna start it we're gonna do Frightmare 1275 00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:35,630 creatures it's all tonight new Alice Eve 1276 00:58:51,260 --> 00:58:37,710 we'll be right back 1277 00:58:55,529 --> 00:58:53,659 [Music] 1278 00:58:57,659 --> 00:58:55,539 this is fade to black 1279 00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:57,669 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1280 00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:01,359 radio network and K GRA the global radio 1281 00:59:06,449 --> 00:59:03,150 alliance 1282 00:59:09,779 --> 00:59:06,459 this is KCRA digital broadcasting 1283 00:59:12,689 --> 00:59:09,789 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 1284 00:59:15,269 --> 00:59:12,699 Arkansas hello 1285 00:59:17,489 --> 00:59:15,279 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01:02:10,640 [Applause] 1342 01:02:33,830 --> 01:02:30,089 welcome back fade block I'm hosting a 1343 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:33,840 church guest tonight on this Hallows Eve 1344 01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:39,010 darkness Dave Schrader and what we're 1345 01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:40,630 gonna do a hold on Dave hold on Dave 1346 01:02:44,339 --> 01:02:43,150 hold on you got a pot you up brother I 1347 01:02:47,070 --> 01:02:44,349 got a pot yet brother 1348 01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:47,080 how dare you not have me pot it up from 1349 01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,400 the beginning don't you know who I think 1350 01:02:57,660 --> 01:02:50,640 I am 1351 01:02:59,339 --> 01:02:57,670 it's kind of like this we I sound like 1352 01:03:01,020 --> 01:02:59,349 I'm stuttering I don't think I've ever 1353 01:03:05,010 --> 01:03:01,030 told this story and I'm not gonna tell 1354 01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:05,020 the whole story but we in the 80s right 1355 01:03:13,550 --> 01:03:08,920 around it was that summer of Nightmare 1356 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:13,560 on Elm Street and and what was the other 1357 01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:16,570 not Halloween Friday - the 13th 1358 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:18,430 right so all of that stuff is kicking 1359 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:21,490 off and guess where we camped it was 1360 01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:26,170 like eight of us Crystal Lake Crystal 1361 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:28,540 Lake Illinois no crystal no used to live 1362 01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:32,250 there Crystal Lake from Friday the 13th 1363 01:03:38,970 --> 01:03:35,740 nice okay now that's right here you can 1364 01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:38,980 go its Reds between it just past 1365 01:03:42,990 --> 01:03:40,780 Pasadena and Monrovia it's up in the 1366 01:03:45,089 --> 01:03:43,000 mountains right there it's a real place 1367 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:45,099 right so we go up they have a campground 1368 01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:47,290 and they're right next to it is the lake 1369 01:03:56,070 --> 01:03:50,920 and the the summer camp right all that 1370 01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:56,080 stuff so we we went off walking at about 1371 01:04:00,839 --> 01:03:59,170 midnight telling campfire stories and we 1372 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:00,849 take off and we're gonna go find Crystal 1373 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:02,890 Lake and we walked into the fog and I'm 1374 01:04:06,359 --> 01:04:04,750 not kidding I'm not joking about this 1375 01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:06,369 one of the scariest things I've ever 1376 01:04:12,329 --> 01:04:09,580 done in my life got lost couldn't get 1377 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:12,339 back to the campground and I hope some 1378 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:13,810 of my friends that were there that night 1379 01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:15,250 are listening right now they know 1380 01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:17,320 exactly what I'm talking about and when 1381 01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:19,300 I finally got back it was like 3 o'clock 1382 01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:22,089 in the morning and we didn't walk far in 1383 01:04:26,339 --> 01:04:25,150 the morning we walked and I walked to 1384 01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:26,349 the lake and I'm looking at the 1385 01:04:31,650 --> 01:04:28,630 campground I'm like dude I can see it I 1386 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:31,660 have no idea it took me three hours to 1387 01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:36,250 get back 100 yards 200 yards anyway we 1388 01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,599 did that Crystal Lake and we're talking 1389 01:04:40,839 --> 01:04:39,440 about you know fighting the 13 1390 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:40,849 that we're getting lost in the fog we 1391 01:04:43,089 --> 01:04:42,410 come back one of the most terrifying 1392 01:04:46,359 --> 01:04:43,099 things 1393 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:46,369 there's something about campfires you 1394 01:04:52,050 --> 01:04:48,890 know camping and in telling the classic 1395 01:04:55,150 --> 01:04:52,060 ghost story so if you are the the the 1396 01:04:56,650 --> 01:04:55,160 guy next door the campsite next door and 1397 01:04:59,319 --> 01:04:56,660 you come over and you're looking at us 1398 01:05:01,780 --> 01:04:59,329 and you decide to sit down and scare the 1399 01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:01,790 crap out of us what's the first 1400 01:05:08,349 --> 01:05:03,680 where were you going first in your 1401 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:08,359 arsenal of tales oh boy where do you go 1402 01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:11,450 I mean when I talk about these creatures 1403 01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:14,960 nightmare kind of creatures that we talk 1404 01:05:20,020 --> 01:05:17,510 about and are fascinated by I love to 1405 01:05:22,750 --> 01:05:20,030 look at the genesis of where a lot of 1406 01:05:26,290 --> 01:05:22,760 these stories come from and how we man 1407 01:05:28,030 --> 01:05:26,300 do we go in and absolutely homogenized 1408 01:05:29,950 --> 01:05:28,040 some of these tales and it's funny to 1409 01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:29,960 look at something along these lines like 1410 01:05:34,270 --> 01:05:32,030 alright as you talk about creepy things 1411 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:34,280 at night the first thing that does not 1412 01:05:38,109 --> 01:05:35,930 pop to mind is the tooth fairy 1413 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:38,119 you wouldn't think this is a creature or 1414 01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:39,650 a being that you would have to be 1415 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:42,230 fearful of right you you leave your 1416 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:43,910 tooth underneath your pillow the 1417 01:05:47,319 --> 01:05:45,890 beautiful Tooth Fairy comes she goes 1418 01:05:49,930 --> 01:05:47,329 under your pillow takes it in and 1419 01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:49,940 replaces it with some kind of shiny form 1420 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:50,960 of money right 1421 01:05:55,809 --> 01:05:53,810 there's nickels dimes quarters dollars 1422 01:05:58,660 --> 01:05:55,819 five dollars depending on just how 1423 01:05:59,800 --> 01:05:58,670 wealthy or your Tooth Fairy is but 1424 01:06:02,020 --> 01:05:59,810 there's there's this great little 1425 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:02,030 exchange but when you look into the real 1426 01:06:05,980 --> 01:06:04,010 historic relevance of this and where 1427 01:06:08,170 --> 01:06:05,990 would this even come from it's a lot 1428 01:06:12,250 --> 01:06:08,180 creepier Jimmy I mean it's it's really 1429 01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:12,260 kind of freaky the whole idea with the 1430 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:14,569 tooth fairy when you lost your first 1431 01:06:21,490 --> 01:06:17,930 tooth or you had your first haircut you 1432 01:06:23,170 --> 01:06:21,500 were supposed to destroy keep it burn it 1433 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:23,180 get rid of it because you didn't want 1434 01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,730 the local village witch getting a hold 1435 01:06:29,530 --> 01:06:27,680 of your hair your first clippings are 1436 01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:29,540 the most powerful or your first tooth 1437 01:06:34,349 --> 01:06:31,790 because those were things that they 1438 01:06:37,059 --> 01:06:34,359 could use to control you and possess you 1439 01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:37,069 so you were supposed to take care of 1440 01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:38,240 these your parents would take them to 1441 01:06:43,329 --> 01:06:39,680 hide them and protect you from them 1442 01:06:46,540 --> 01:06:43,339 that's why we're so clingy when it comes 1443 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:46,550 to those first haircuts and first teeth 1444 01:06:51,099 --> 01:06:49,130 that come out is is because it had more 1445 01:06:53,140 --> 01:06:51,109 of a rooting and superstition and fear 1446 01:06:54,789 --> 01:06:53,150 than it did and that in the 1447 01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:54,799 Tooth Fairy was nothing like we expect 1448 01:06:59,620 --> 01:06:56,720 it wasn't this beautiful angelic 1449 01:07:02,049 --> 01:06:59,630 creature was more of this vampiric like 1450 01:07:04,210 --> 01:07:02,059 being that would want to steal your 1451 01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:04,220 teeth or your hair clippings in order to 1452 01:07:09,339 --> 01:07:07,369 take control of you and and take this 1453 01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:09,349 and this was an actual fear that was 1454 01:07:13,269 --> 01:07:11,569 long believed all the way up until in 1455 01:07:16,269 --> 01:07:13,279 some of the countries all the way up 1456 01:07:17,740 --> 01:07:16,279 until the late 1800s and they wouldn't 1457 01:07:19,809 --> 01:07:17,750 talk about certain aspects of this 1458 01:07:22,059 --> 01:07:19,819 because of that fear so they kind of 1459 01:07:24,370 --> 01:07:22,069 started to homogenize these stories and 1460 01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:24,380 clean them up clear them up as we know a 1461 01:07:28,329 --> 01:07:26,089 lot of stories that we come across are 1462 01:07:30,370 --> 01:07:28,339 actually cautionary tales to control 1463 01:07:32,829 --> 01:07:30,380 children if you tell them about the big 1464 01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:32,839 bad wolf in the woods there is no big 1465 01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:35,150 bad wolf in those woods but I don't want 1466 01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:36,799 my kids wandering off into the woods 1467 01:07:41,260 --> 01:07:38,569 where they could fall or trip or you 1468 01:07:43,180 --> 01:07:41,270 know get hurt and they're far away from 1469 01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:43,190 us so there would always be these you 1470 01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:45,200 know these creepy stories that would be 1471 01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:48,049 told and passed down and they would tell 1472 01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:50,049 you how the woods were haunted and 1473 01:07:53,230 --> 01:07:51,950 specifically the deeper into the woods 1474 01:07:55,539 --> 01:07:53,240 you went the creepier it got and that's 1475 01:07:57,309 --> 01:07:55,549 because that's where a lot of the the 1476 01:07:58,690 --> 01:07:57,319 criminals would hang out because they 1477 01:08:00,339 --> 01:07:58,700 didn't they wanted to keep people from 1478 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:00,349 trying to find them or chase them into 1479 01:08:04,450 --> 01:08:02,210 the woods so they could do their deal 1480 01:08:06,130 --> 01:08:04,460 their bidding and then hide in the woods 1481 01:08:08,260 --> 01:08:06,140 beyond the part where everybody was 1482 01:08:10,269 --> 01:08:08,270 comfortable to go into it so there's a 1483 01:08:13,900 --> 01:08:10,279 lot of these stories where we see the 1484 01:08:17,649 --> 01:08:13,910 actual spark of them is something in 1485 01:08:20,380 --> 01:08:17,659 nefarious in order to protect or to keep 1486 01:08:22,809 --> 01:08:20,390 us from you know being hurt or or or 1487 01:08:26,649 --> 01:08:22,819 putting ourselves in harm's way what did 1488 01:08:29,229 --> 01:08:26,659 you do with your teeth then in the 1600s 1489 01:08:30,669 --> 01:08:29,239 did you give them to your parents well 1490 01:08:32,559 --> 01:08:30,679 the parents right they would collect 1491 01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:32,569 them and they would either crush them 1492 01:08:36,039 --> 01:08:34,460 down or into powder so that they could 1493 01:08:38,169 --> 01:08:36,049 be or they would burn them or they would 1494 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:38,179 bury them in the yard under a full moon 1495 01:08:41,709 --> 01:08:40,370 so as long as the parents were able to 1496 01:08:44,380 --> 01:08:41,719 take control but at all it just kind of 1497 01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,390 varies in the different cultures and how 1498 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:46,400 they looked at it but that was that was 1499 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:47,690 your first one I mean then you've got 1500 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:50,810 well everybody knows Santa Claus right 1501 01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:52,730 and he's a jolly old right elf who's a 1502 01:08:58,539 --> 01:08:55,520 great guy comes around once a year to 1503 01:09:00,160 --> 01:08:58,549 deliver presents and and take care of 1504 01:09:00,999 --> 01:09:00,170 the people that have been good and 1505 01:09:02,529 --> 01:09:01,009 reward 1506 01:09:05,799 --> 01:09:02,539 but what a lot of people don't remember 1507 01:09:08,620 --> 01:09:05,809 when this story originated there was a 1508 01:09:10,329 --> 01:09:08,630 darker aspect to this Santa had kind of 1509 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:10,339 an enforcer you could look at Santa's 1510 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:12,130 kind of the Tony Soprano of the 1511 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:15,170 supernatural beings world he would send 1512 01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,650 Krampus out or the Belsnickel and they 1513 01:09:22,569 --> 01:09:20,480 would go out and they would grab 1514 01:09:23,950 --> 01:09:22,579 children that were naughty and they 1515 01:09:25,660 --> 01:09:23,960 would beat them with switches and throw 1516 01:09:27,220 --> 01:09:25,670 them in their bags and depending on the 1517 01:09:29,319 --> 01:09:27,230 severity of how naughty these children 1518 01:09:32,169 --> 01:09:29,329 were some would be taken away never seen 1519 01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:32,179 again some would be eaten so Krampus and 1520 01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:33,920 Belsnickel and some of these characters 1521 01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:37,369 were were the frontrunners so that when 1522 01:09:40,599 --> 01:09:39,440 Santa came to deliver presents he didn't 1523 01:09:42,459 --> 01:09:40,609 have to worry about if you've been 1524 01:09:44,859 --> 01:09:42,469 naughty or nice if you were still alive 1525 01:09:47,769 --> 01:09:44,869 you got a present because they were 1526 01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:47,779 ready they'd already judged you I never 1527 01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:51,920 liked Stan anyway he's a good guy you 1528 01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,900 know he got he got rid of Krampus he let 1529 01:09:58,330 --> 01:09:55,760 him go he realize things that that's not 1530 01:10:00,220 --> 01:09:58,340 good PR for the whole row motion machine 1531 01:10:02,799 --> 01:10:00,230 right right so he let go with that and 1532 01:10:04,629 --> 01:10:02,809 instead he just has slave labor with the 1533 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:04,639 elves right you know I mean there's one 1534 01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:07,250 trade for another I guess well I respect 1535 01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:09,110 Santa now and for the joy that he's 1536 01:10:13,509 --> 01:10:11,510 brought my children right but man 1537 01:10:16,779 --> 01:10:13,519 growing up there was something I just 1538 01:10:19,419 --> 01:10:16,789 didn't trust about that guy there were 1539 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:19,429 that that was me as a kid it was really 1540 01:10:23,859 --> 01:10:21,489 bizarre there was sad just had something 1541 01:10:26,049 --> 01:10:23,869 yeah I don't know I don't know what it 1542 01:10:27,819 --> 01:10:26,059 was but the was the idea that he could 1543 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:27,829 get in that he was he was watching you 1544 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:29,449 while you were sleeping and he knew or 1545 01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:31,010 and you were good or bad it was kind of 1546 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:32,719 a stalker he creepy kind of 1547 01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:35,690 visualization right it was they kind of 1548 01:10:39,459 --> 01:10:37,670 took the pressure off of Jesus and be 1549 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:39,469 careful what would Jesus do and you know 1550 01:10:43,299 --> 01:10:41,090 they put it on Santa Claus for a good 1551 01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:43,309 portion of the year so you keep you were 1552 01:10:47,649 --> 01:10:45,409 kind of you know built into the sphere 1553 01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:47,659 and in Santa was often used as fear 1554 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:49,280 because if you didn't do what you were 1555 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:50,570 supposed to do you're gonna get a lump 1556 01:11:00,549 --> 01:10:56,710 of coal now why is it that we we seem to 1557 01:11:05,979 --> 01:11:00,559 be able to manifest not only creatures 1558 01:11:08,649 --> 01:11:05,989 monsters these things from you know 1559 01:11:11,709 --> 01:11:08,659 these dark places with our minds and 1560 01:11:15,069 --> 01:11:11,719 then when the hive mind kicks in 1561 01:11:17,770 --> 01:11:15,079 as this fear spreads and the in it's 1562 01:11:20,739 --> 01:11:17,780 done with thought that they seem to 1563 01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:20,749 become they manifest themselves they 1564 01:11:26,919 --> 01:11:24,800 become real and and I'm not sure where 1565 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:26,929 that is coming from well I'll tell you 1566 01:11:28,839 --> 01:11:27,530 what why don't 1567 01:11:29,979 --> 01:11:28,849 that's a great question why don't we 1568 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:29,989 hold that off for a little bit later on 1569 01:11:33,279 --> 01:11:31,489 because I want to get into some of the 1570 01:11:35,290 --> 01:11:33,289 nightmare creatures themselves so that 1571 01:11:38,049 --> 01:11:35,300 come from our nightmares and things like 1572 01:11:40,270 --> 01:11:38,059 Slender Man are the faceless that we can 1573 01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:40,280 we can go back to their starting point 1574 01:11:44,529 --> 01:11:42,110 we know where it is or where we thought 1575 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:44,539 it was but it's become something unto 1576 01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:46,489 itself now and and we'll kind of cover 1577 01:11:49,779 --> 01:11:47,840 into that but if as we're kind of 1578 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:49,789 wrapping up with the night time beings 1579 01:11:53,259 --> 01:11:51,530 and and ones that we've looked at fondly 1580 01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,269 the last one I'll kind of mention to you 1581 01:11:57,969 --> 01:11:54,800 here that at a different darker 1582 01:11:59,500 --> 01:11:57,979 beginning is the Sandman right right a 1583 01:12:01,330 --> 01:11:59,510 lot of us are familiar with the mr. 1584 01:12:02,919 --> 01:12:01,340 Sandman you know bring me a dream he 1585 01:12:04,959 --> 01:12:02,929 comes into your room if you have trouble 1586 01:12:06,370 --> 01:12:04,969 sleeping and sprinkles Stardust in your 1587 01:12:07,660 --> 01:12:06,380 eyes to help you go to sleep and that's 1588 01:12:09,939 --> 01:12:07,670 why when you wake up and your eyes are 1589 01:12:11,469 --> 01:12:09,949 all crusty the Sandman had been there 1590 01:12:13,839 --> 01:12:11,479 that night and visited you to help you 1591 01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,849 get into sleep what the Sandman's real 1592 01:12:18,459 --> 01:12:16,400 job was to control and if children were 1593 01:12:20,649 --> 01:12:18,469 screwing around and up horsing around 1594 01:12:22,330 --> 01:12:20,659 when the Sandman got there much like the 1595 01:12:23,739 --> 01:12:22,340 tooth fairy if if you're if you're up 1596 01:12:26,469 --> 01:12:23,749 horsing around she's not gonna bring you 1597 01:12:29,850 --> 01:12:26,479 your money well with Sandman if he 1598 01:12:32,859 --> 01:12:29,860 caught you pretending to be asleep or 1599 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:32,869 wide-awake he would come up to you and 1600 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:35,210 blast you in the face with a handful of 1601 01:12:39,939 --> 01:12:37,489 sand tearing out your eyes it was like a 1602 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:39,949 sand blast literally the idea would be 1603 01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:42,050 then he would steal your eyes 1604 01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,360 so the Sandman's of a much more chilling 1605 01:12:48,669 --> 01:12:46,159 character much more like the Metallica 1606 01:12:51,219 --> 01:12:48,679 version right of since going it was a 1607 01:12:54,459 --> 01:12:51,229 darker entity it was a creature who was 1608 01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:54,469 meant to control and and keep us in our 1609 01:13:00,040 --> 01:12:57,920 place when it came to sleep these it's a 1610 01:13:00,959 --> 01:13:00,050 it's remarkable we're not all completely 1611 01:13:02,979 --> 01:13:00,969 nuts 1612 01:13:04,450 --> 01:13:02,989 after hearing all of these kind of 1613 01:13:09,850 --> 01:13:04,460 stories growing up and being brought up 1614 01:13:12,879 --> 01:13:09,860 in a fear way right and and so we we 1615 01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:12,889 used to be okay with that you know what 1616 01:13:21,819 --> 01:13:17,710 I mean you know parents grandparents 1617 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:21,829 I'll tell you one of the more 1618 01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:25,010 frightening aspects of my childhood was 1619 01:13:30,549 --> 01:13:27,880 to my grandparents house I would always 1620 01:13:35,020 --> 01:13:30,559 with my brother Mike we would sleep in 1621 01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:35,030 my Uncle Bill's room he's been a guest 1622 01:13:38,740 --> 01:13:36,550 on this show by the way he's a 1623 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:38,750 helicopter pilot in the army 1624 01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:41,570 he's just retired my Uncle Bill was a 1625 01:13:47,620 --> 01:13:44,239 pretty tough dude and growing up when he 1626 01:13:52,569 --> 01:13:47,630 was like I was five and let's say he was 1627 01:13:53,919 --> 01:13:52,579 15 right so we would he would sleep 1628 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:53,929 somewhere else in my grandmother's house 1629 01:14:00,370 --> 01:13:56,210 and we would sleep there and he would 1630 01:14:04,419 --> 01:14:00,380 tell us dudes whatever you do don't open 1631 01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:04,429 up that little door right and so right 1632 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:06,920 next to his bed was a little three foot 1633 01:14:15,069 --> 01:14:12,650 by two foot attic door right and mad I 1634 01:14:16,750 --> 01:14:15,079 never opened it myself I never looked at 1635 01:14:19,299 --> 01:14:16,760 I never really knew what was in there 1636 01:14:21,220 --> 01:14:19,309 but by him you know doing that you know 1637 01:14:24,399 --> 01:14:21,230 the boogie Mans in there you guys needed 1638 01:14:28,629 --> 01:14:24,409 to be behaving just go to bed get to 1639 01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:28,639 sleep and it was like rule by fear right 1640 01:14:33,370 --> 01:14:31,369 and and we were okay with that it scared 1641 01:14:35,589 --> 01:14:33,380 the crap out of me but we went to sleep 1642 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:35,599 and I never opened up the door I was 1643 01:14:41,470 --> 01:14:38,150 terrified but terrified of that I can 1644 01:14:44,879 --> 01:14:41,480 still see it in my mind's eye today why 1645 01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:44,889 is it why was it okay to rule by fear if 1646 01:14:51,819 --> 01:14:47,380 with really cool stories 1647 01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:51,829 imagine if if some child went to school 1648 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:54,320 and the teacher went up and said you 1649 01:14:58,419 --> 01:14:56,449 know well what's wrong well you know my 1650 01:15:00,009 --> 01:14:58,429 dad scared the crap out of me last night 1651 01:15:02,620 --> 01:15:00,019 told me the story about the Headless 1652 01:15:04,899 --> 01:15:02,630 Horseman and and you knows go through 1653 01:15:07,870 --> 01:15:04,909 the village and killing people and you 1654 01:15:10,839 --> 01:15:07,880 know you could have child services at 1655 01:15:12,759 --> 01:15:10,849 your house it's not that kind of party 1656 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:12,769 today why is it that we were okay with 1657 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:14,449 it when we were kids I certainly was 1658 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:17,090 well we weren't such an overly 1659 01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:20,650 politically correct and over sensitized 1660 01:15:25,509 --> 01:15:23,510 group of snowflakes at that point and I 1661 01:15:28,270 --> 01:15:25,519 don't mean it to sound disrespectful Jim 1662 01:15:29,649 --> 01:15:28,280 and and I I grew up in that nature as 1663 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:29,659 well and I think it's okay to have a 1664 01:15:34,959 --> 01:15:32,050 felt healthy fear and respect of things 1665 01:15:38,189 --> 01:15:34,969 you know you speak about Halloween right 1666 01:15:40,020 --> 01:15:38,199 perfect time of year egging houses 1667 01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:40,030 toilet papering the trees in the 1668 01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:41,350 neighborhood my dad would take me 1669 01:15:45,689 --> 01:15:43,390 outside need point to the houses that 1670 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:45,699 had been egged in toilet paper and he 1671 01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:47,530 would tell me this happens to my house 1672 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:48,880 I'm gonna kick your ass 1673 01:15:52,590 --> 01:15:51,130 right and I'm like why me I wouldn't do 1674 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:52,600 it and he goes no but that means you've 1675 01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:54,310 been a jerk to somebody or you've done 1676 01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:55,560 it to somebody and they're retaliating 1677 01:16:01,320 --> 01:15:58,210 that's not that kid's house that's his 1678 01:16:02,610 --> 01:16:01,330 parents house and they worked hard so if 1679 01:16:04,380 --> 01:16:02,620 you're doing this to somebody else's 1680 01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:04,390 house they're gonna retaliate on my 1681 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:06,400 house so I can only guess that if we're 1682 01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,690 gonna get egged and we're gonna get 1683 01:16:11,310 --> 01:16:09,520 toilet papered it's because you did 1684 01:16:13,380 --> 01:16:11,320 something stupid so you know what I 1685 01:16:15,090 --> 01:16:13,390 didn't do I did nag people's houses and 1686 01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:15,100 I didn't toilet paper him because he 1687 01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:17,230 brought me two points of perspective one 1688 01:16:21,419 --> 01:16:19,510 that's not the home of the person that 1689 01:16:23,790 --> 01:16:21,429 that I would have wanted to irritate or 1690 01:16:25,709 --> 01:16:23,800 agitate anyway and more importantly 1691 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:25,719 there was going to be held to pay if it 1692 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:28,210 came back that was his version of karma 1693 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:31,210 he was showing me the end and there was 1694 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:33,370 this sense of beer that we had and and 1695 01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:35,290 it's gone away now we're so worried that 1696 01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:37,750 oh this is gonna scar and this is you 1697 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:39,520 know what no it's okay to show that 1698 01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:43,050 there are repercussions for our actions 1699 01:16:46,979 --> 01:16:44,920 well that's what a lot of these 1700 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:46,989 cautionary tales were Jimmy it was just 1701 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:49,810 a way to tell people don't go here you 1702 01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:51,250 can get hurt but if you tell somebody 1703 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:53,140 that the first thing they want to do is 1704 01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:55,810 go do it right this is dangerous 1705 01:17:00,000 --> 01:16:58,239 who danger that sounds exciting but you 1706 01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:00,010 suddenly put the big bad wolf into the 1707 01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:03,040 mix or you put a demon or a haunted 1708 01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,630 house or possess that old house at the 1709 01:17:08,610 --> 01:17:06,400 end of the street we all had one Jimmy 1710 01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:08,620 that was haunted and abandoned and you 1711 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:09,670 don't want to go in there because they 1712 01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:11,890 found bodies in that house and there 1713 01:17:16,890 --> 01:17:14,640 have been ghosts seen in the windows and 1714 01:17:18,570 --> 01:17:16,900 we all heard about that and all it was 1715 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:18,580 was it was a neighbor that went away 1716 01:17:22,740 --> 01:17:20,890 every year for summer to a different 1717 01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:22,750 state or winter for a different state 1718 01:17:25,919 --> 01:17:24,340 and they didn't want their house broken 1719 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:25,929 into and neighbors would tell these 1720 01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,449 stories to keep you from doing stupid 1721 01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,920 things and Breaking and Entering or 1722 01:17:33,330 --> 01:17:31,600 going in and partying at these houses if 1723 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:33,340 they built this healthy fear with this 1724 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:35,650 culture of ghost stories it would keep 1725 01:17:39,419 --> 01:17:37,810 you in play and you wouldn't wander off 1726 01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:39,429 at camp into the woods because there was 1727 01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,590 a haunted horseman that that stalked the 1728 01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:43,600 woods I went to why camp every summer 1729 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:46,270 and there was a ghost legend or creature 1730 01:17:50,669 --> 01:17:48,370 legend in every one of these places that 1731 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,679 I went to and it was again now as an 1732 01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:52,000 adult I can look bad at 1733 01:17:55,710 --> 01:17:53,830 get it and go oh oh that was a really 1734 01:17:57,540 --> 01:17:55,720 clever way to keep control of children 1735 01:17:59,280 --> 01:17:57,550 that they were afraid could run around 1736 01:18:01,140 --> 01:17:59,290 and do stupid things at night and end up 1737 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:01,150 getting hurt now none of us straight 1738 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:02,650 from the path because we didn't want to 1739 01:18:06,420 --> 01:18:04,690 get eaten by the wolf what was the first 1740 01:18:10,490 --> 01:18:06,430 story you told your daughters do you 1741 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:10,500 remember oh boy well I've always been 1742 01:18:15,420 --> 01:18:13,210 protective of this thing with the 1743 01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:15,430 paranormal I don't talk about it openly 1744 01:18:19,950 --> 01:18:18,070 I mean if they come to me to question me 1745 01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:19,960 about something I'm always very open and 1746 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:23,830 forthcoming they've they've asked me 1747 01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:25,930 about experiences and you know when I 1748 01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:27,490 was a kid did I ever have ghostly 1749 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:29,340 experiences and I would tell them about 1750 01:18:34,050 --> 01:18:32,410 visitations for my grandmother and I 1751 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:34,060 would tell them things like that I never 1752 01:18:39,150 --> 01:18:36,610 really used the paranormal to frighten 1753 01:18:40,410 --> 01:18:39,160 my kids because I didn't you know that 1754 01:18:41,670 --> 01:18:40,420 that's a stigma that's bet we have 1755 01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:41,680 enough things in the real world to be 1756 01:18:46,470 --> 01:18:43,360 worried and frightened of the the 1757 01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:46,480 paranormal is not one of them so I I've 1758 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:47,500 always tried to keep them pretty well 1759 01:18:52,230 --> 01:18:49,930 protected from that but we've had some 1760 01:18:55,260 --> 01:18:52,240 weird experiences you know I had I had a 1761 01:18:57,420 --> 01:18:55,270 point where my son that was living my 1762 01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:57,430 old house with my ex-wife and I was 1763 01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:58,810 living in the basement she was upstairs 1764 01:19:02,610 --> 01:19:00,880 and we were coexisting for a while in 1765 01:19:06,270 --> 01:19:02,620 this living setting and she came 1766 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:06,280 downstairs and said you need to talk to 1767 01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,770 your son and I said what's wrong and he 1768 01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:10,480 started to tell me how his little sister 1769 01:19:15,570 --> 01:19:13,510 Pacey was running around the house and I 1770 01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:15,580 said honey Pacey's barely 1 years old 1771 01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:17,920 she can barely stand up let alone walk a 1772 01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:19,540 run she can't run around could dad dad 1773 01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:20,800 have seen her I've saw her she had her 1774 01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:23,950 running around in my room ok well I'll 1775 01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:25,510 tell you what you go back up to bed I'll 1776 01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:26,950 let him sleep on the floor next to me 1777 01:19:31,770 --> 01:19:29,470 down here we'll be good to go so she 1778 01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:31,780 goes no no no tell him the rest of the 1779 01:19:34,590 --> 01:19:32,260 story 1780 01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:34,600 so my son who looks a lot like Ronny 1781 01:19:38,370 --> 01:19:36,520 Howard when he was that little boy he 1782 01:19:40,350 --> 01:19:38,380 looked like Opie from The Andy Griffith 1783 01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:40,360 Show where a cute little red had big 1784 01:19:44,580 --> 01:19:42,640 freckles big eyes and he's always got a 1785 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:44,590 smile and he looks at me he goes well 1786 01:19:48,050 --> 01:19:46,090 there's the little boy on the top bunk 1787 01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:48,060 in my room daddy 1788 01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:50,380 and at first I looked and I said well 1789 01:19:54,570 --> 01:19:52,270 that's that's your brother Nathan Linus 1790 01:19:56,970 --> 01:19:54,580 and he said no daddy Nathan is sleeping 1791 01:19:59,820 --> 01:19:56,980 this boy's sitting on the top stair and 1792 01:20:01,650 --> 01:19:59,830 he's looking at me like this and he 1793 01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:01,660 slowly tilts his head down and gives you 1794 01:20:05,460 --> 01:20:04,390 that Damien The Omen look when things 1795 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:05,470 are about to go horribly 1796 01:20:09,180 --> 01:20:07,090 and he always kind of looks down at you 1797 01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:09,190 and under his brow and all of a sudden 1798 01:20:16,590 --> 01:20:12,430 Opie turns into this creepy horror movie 1799 01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:16,600 kid and my blood ran cold so being a 1800 01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:18,910 good father that I am and knowing that 1801 01:20:22,830 --> 01:20:20,920 my other son is now maybe up there in 1802 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:22,840 this room with some other being right 1803 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:24,490 next to him I just looked at Linus and I 1804 01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:26,050 said here you just nap with that he will 1805 01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:27,110 be okay down here 1806 01:20:30,510 --> 01:20:28,900 [Laughter] 1807 01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:30,520 lay down there kicking myself mentally 1808 01:20:34,110 --> 01:20:32,320 for the next 10 to 15 minutes and then 1809 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:34,120 finally I said all right dad's gonna go 1810 01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:36,610 up and just check on Nathan and I turned 1811 01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:38,350 on all the lights and stomped my way up 1812 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:40,390 the stairs as loud as I could make him 1813 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,490 as much racket as I could I don't know 1814 01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:44,560 if I thought I was gonna terrify the the 1815 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:46,510 ghosts with like Fred Sanford attitude 1816 01:20:50,490 --> 01:20:48,850 you know I better not be anything up in 1817 01:20:52,020 --> 01:20:50,500 that room out kicking in the air you 1818 01:20:53,550 --> 01:20:52,030 know and I'm yelling my whole way up the 1819 01:20:55,170 --> 01:20:53,560 room and I get up there and my son sits 1820 01:20:57,330 --> 01:20:55,180 up all bleary-eyed when the lights go on 1821 01:21:00,570 --> 01:20:57,340 and thankfully there was nothing in his 1822 01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:00,580 room but that my little guy was that 1823 01:21:04,410 --> 01:21:02,800 perplexed by it I reached out to John 1824 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:04,420 Zaffis and Adam Bligh a few of my 1825 01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:06,370 friends at our demonologists and I said 1826 01:21:09,690 --> 01:21:08,500 what about this now if it was just a kid 1827 01:21:10,890 --> 01:21:09,700 in the room I'm not too worried about 1828 01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:10,900 that 1829 01:21:16,620 --> 01:21:15,040 children spirits would be drawn to my 1830 01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:16,630 kids they're fun they're entertaining 1831 01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:19,120 and I said but the fact that this kid 1832 01:21:23,370 --> 01:21:21,040 looked malevolent is what unnerved me 1833 01:21:24,780 --> 01:21:23,380 and they told me the protocol and we 1834 01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:24,790 went through and I cleansed of the room 1835 01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:26,590 the best I could and we didn't have any 1836 01:21:32,010 --> 01:21:29,080 problems for a long time I want to be 1837 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:32,020 clear here did you say you waited 15 1838 01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:36,090 minutes Jimmy I'm still a human being 1839 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:38,950 you'll have some fears and the way if 1840 01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:41,410 you would have seen my kid again you 1841 01:21:46,350 --> 01:21:43,360 just have to picture the cutest little 1842 01:21:49,020 --> 01:21:46,360 redheaded freckle-faced kid who's always 1843 01:21:52,350 --> 01:21:49,030 got a smile on his face suddenly 1844 01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:52,360 knitting his brow turning his face into 1845 01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:55,510 this scowling gargoyle and tilting his 1846 01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:56,800 head and then looking at you from 1847 01:22:02,940 --> 01:21:59,440 underneath his brow it freaked me out 1848 01:22:05,490 --> 01:22:02,950 isn't that reason enough as a dad to 1849 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:05,500 jump up and save you think so you think 1850 01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:07,930 so Jimmy but I'm gonna say until you're 1851 01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:10,300 in the position I went I did what I had 1852 01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:11,950 to do but I figured if he was up there 1853 01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:13,510 that long he was probably okay I was 1854 01:22:16,620 --> 01:22:14,800 also just trying to think what am I 1855 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:16,630 gonna do because I always joke around 1856 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:19,330 when I've had Bigfoot guests on her show 1857 01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:20,650 and people that are out investigating 1858 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:22,660 claims of chupacabra and Bigfoot and 1859 01:22:26,850 --> 01:22:25,330 ghosts I go what happens Jimmy what 1860 01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:26,860 happens when you round that tree and 1861 01:22:30,990 --> 01:22:29,590 it's standing there what's the next move 1862 01:22:33,690 --> 01:22:31,000 I don't know 1863 01:22:35,130 --> 01:22:33,700 I've alright so yeah yeah so that was my 1864 01:22:36,750 --> 01:22:35,140 thought was okay so I'm gonna go 1865 01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:36,760 charging up there and if there is really 1866 01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:39,040 some kind of manifestation sitting next 1867 01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:41,590 to my son right what am I gonna do 1868 01:22:44,970 --> 01:22:43,480 that doesn't end up with me soiling my 1869 01:22:47,370 --> 01:22:44,980 pants in front of my family 1870 01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:47,380 Wow so I just thought it through I was 1871 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:49,120 sitting there running it through my head 1872 01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:51,370 I'm saying some prayers I'm just trying 1873 01:22:58,650 --> 01:22:55,390 to it was so surreal so you can shine I 1874 01:23:02,400 --> 01:22:58,660 made my way up there he chose soiling 1875 01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:02,410 your pants over saving your son yeah 1876 01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:04,630 that moment I did I went up like I said 1877 01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:07,360 I went up I listened keenly because if I 1878 01:23:10,620 --> 01:23:08,590 would have heard something I would have 1879 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:10,630 gone tearing up now there there's been a 1880 01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:12,010 couple of moments of redemption but 1881 01:23:14,700 --> 01:23:13,120 maybe this will give you a little bit 1882 01:23:16,500 --> 01:23:14,710 more insight Jimmy and I'm not so quick 1883 01:23:18,510 --> 01:23:16,510 to jump sure okay 1884 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:18,520 do you remember on the paranormal TV 1885 01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:21,370 shows paranormal state and and ghost 1886 01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,080 hunters when they first broke and even 1887 01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:25,120 on most haunted they kept running into 1888 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:28,660 these little Jawa sized ghosts that 1889 01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:31,330 seemed to be cloaked very small that's 1890 01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:33,520 rings right and it was like this 1891 01:23:38,220 --> 01:23:35,470 epidemic everybody was seeing these 1892 01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:38,230 things well when my wife and I were 1893 01:23:41,790 --> 01:23:39,910 still together and sleeping in the same 1894 01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:41,800 room she slept on the side closest to 1895 01:23:46,770 --> 01:23:43,510 the door I slept on the side closest to 1896 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:46,780 the window and I woke up one night to 1897 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:49,450 see this little figure launching from my 1898 01:23:53,730 --> 01:23:51,610 side of the bed around the bed heading 1899 01:23:55,950 --> 01:23:53,740 towards my wife side of the bed whoa 1900 01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:55,960 and it's small it had to have gotten in 1901 01:23:59,010 --> 01:23:57,490 the room and all the way over by me 1902 01:24:02,520 --> 01:23:59,020 without me noticing and I'm a pretty 1903 01:24:04,860 --> 01:24:02,530 light sleeper so obviously it's one of 1904 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:04,870 these little creepy Jawa ghosts so I 1905 01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:09,610 fling myself over I fling myself over my 1906 01:24:13,530 --> 01:24:11,800 wife I reach down and I grab this thing 1907 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:13,540 by the throat and I cocked my fist back 1908 01:24:22,740 --> 01:24:19,450 and I hear daddy know oh my god serum 1909 01:24:24,510 --> 01:24:22,750 my daughter had come in the room that's 1910 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:24,520 a true slice out of the bed oh it's a 1911 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:26,290 true story true she'll tell you the same 1912 01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:30,610 story but I um I took off my daughter's 1913 01:24:32,630 --> 01:24:31,960 head trying to protect my wife 1914 01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,640 so I'm not 1915 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:34,560 too quick to jump to the trigger now Jim 1916 01:24:38,930 --> 01:24:37,050 cuz I've got lots of kids and I gotta be 1917 01:24:41,330 --> 01:24:38,940 careful that what I'm about to do does 1918 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:41,340 not scar them permanently my response 1919 01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:43,050 was I was just giving you a hug honey 1920 01:24:50,690 --> 01:24:47,310 right the those those original shows 1921 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:50,700 that first run in the mid mid-2000s when 1922 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:53,370 they really started to kick off I fell 1923 01:24:59,090 --> 01:24:57,810 asleep on the couch to a marathon right 1924 01:25:00,560 --> 01:24:59,100 that you know whatever you know it's 1925 01:25:05,060 --> 01:25:00,570 it's a marathon of one of those shows 1926 01:25:06,620 --> 01:25:05,070 and the little job that's what they were 1927 01:25:09,410 --> 01:25:06,630 right the job well goes are running 1928 01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:09,420 around I fall asleep and this was the 1929 01:25:14,750 --> 01:25:11,670 nightmare that I had and I'm telling you 1930 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:14,760 it was terrifying and it was because of 1931 01:25:20,740 --> 01:25:19,170 the little mini Caped Crusader's right 1932 01:25:26,270 --> 01:25:20,750 right 1933 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:26,280 running with my wife Rita through a 1934 01:25:31,310 --> 01:25:28,770 neighborhood with these things chasing 1935 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:31,320 us with the neighbors yelling and 1936 01:25:38,690 --> 01:25:35,970 screaming dropping there's blood and the 1937 01:25:42,500 --> 01:25:38,700 only way we could get away from them was 1938 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:42,510 climb a tree so my wife and I are trying 1939 01:25:47,930 --> 01:25:44,970 to were climbing and these things are 1940 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:47,940 nipping at it was terrifying and were up 1941 01:25:53,390 --> 01:25:50,010 in the trees now I'm sitting here I'm 1942 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:53,400 telling this story now as ridiculous as 1943 01:26:00,620 --> 01:25:57,090 it sounds I woke up in a cold sweat 1944 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:00,630 I was I was terrified and it was the 1945 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:02,970 only thing we could do and they would 1946 01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,890 climb and they were climbing up in the 1947 01:26:09,050 --> 01:26:06,480 trees and we would have to escape the 1948 01:26:10,610 --> 01:26:09,060 tree and run away with everybody else in 1949 01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,620 the neighborhood I'm talking about you 1950 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:12,960 know people in the streets fighting over 1951 01:26:17,180 --> 01:26:14,730 trees to get away from the little 1952 01:26:20,660 --> 01:26:17,190 knee-high dudes and it was terrifying 1953 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:20,670 man it was terrified show see messed 1954 01:26:25,630 --> 01:26:23,130 with me messed with me I love a good 1955 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:25,640 nightmare I love a good nightmare and 1956 01:26:29,980 --> 01:26:28,410 the other thing that I like to do we're 1957 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:29,990 gonna head towards a break right here is 1958 01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:33,570 which I mentioned earlier if I'm in the 1959 01:26:36,980 --> 01:26:35,520 middle of a really good scary dream and 1960 01:26:39,020 --> 01:26:36,990 then I wake up in the middle of the 1961 01:26:43,940 --> 01:26:39,030 night you know bathroom break kind of 1962 01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:43,950 thing I go back to bed trying to pick up 1963 01:26:47,509 --> 01:26:45,760 where I left off 1964 01:26:50,279 --> 01:26:47,519 you do the same thing with your dreams 1965 01:26:52,770 --> 01:26:50,289 only when it includes Kate Beckinsale 1966 01:26:54,359 --> 01:26:52,780 otherwise no I I want out of those bad 1967 01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:54,369 dreams I want out of them and I want to 1968 01:26:57,089 --> 01:26:55,630 be done with them I don't I never tried 1969 01:26:58,770 --> 01:26:57,099 to get back into the dark ones it's only 1970 01:27:01,950 --> 01:26:58,780 the fun ones that I want to visit again 1971 01:27:05,279 --> 01:27:01,960 really no I enjoy I enjoy stringing the 1972 01:27:08,430 --> 01:27:05,289 nightmare together I really do I'm not 1973 01:27:11,279 --> 01:27:08,440 I've said this many many many many many 1974 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:11,289 times I hear all kinds of special Jimmy 1975 01:27:18,180 --> 01:27:16,210 I like I like the the the thing that I 1976 01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:18,190 like about having a really good 1977 01:27:24,810 --> 01:27:22,719 nightmare is like the game Silent Hill 1978 01:27:27,839 --> 01:27:24,820 did you ever play that video game sure 1979 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:27,849 okay the the whole opposite right the 1980 01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:30,489 parallel world aspect of your reality 1981 01:27:35,759 --> 01:27:33,030 where you going and you can't escape and 1982 01:27:37,649 --> 01:27:35,769 you can see other people but they can't 1983 01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,659 see you and you're yelling you know and 1984 01:27:44,009 --> 01:27:39,760 everything is gray and to sepia-toned 1985 01:27:47,310 --> 01:27:44,019 and and that that's the that's where I 1986 01:27:50,490 --> 01:27:47,320 like to go I liked I liked that zone I 1987 01:27:53,970 --> 01:27:50,500 like that zone that that that two-tone 1988 01:27:56,430 --> 01:27:53,980 sepia you can't escape nightmare and I 1989 01:27:59,819 --> 01:27:56,440 will definitely try to jump back into it 1990 01:28:01,020 --> 01:27:59,829 feet first well you can have them I'll 1991 01:28:02,370 --> 01:28:01,030 just send them your way when I'm in the 1992 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:02,380 middle of creepy ones and I shake it off 1993 01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:04,090 I'll just make sure that I tell epatha 1994 01:28:08,009 --> 01:28:06,280 kelis end the rest of that dream right 1995 01:28:10,169 --> 01:28:08,019 over to Jimmy church's home yep I have 1996 01:28:12,660 --> 01:28:10,179 no problems with it man and actually I 1997 01:28:14,879 --> 01:28:12,670 invited all right let's take a quick 1998 01:28:18,540 --> 01:28:14,889 break when we come back we're gonna 1999 01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:18,550 continue the Frightmare 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Jimmy Church our 2070 01:32:34,250 --> 01:32:31,310 guest tonight darkness Dave Schrader and 2071 01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:34,260 you know what's funny Dave 2072 01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:36,120 you've got a nickname man you know how 2073 01:32:42,830 --> 01:32:40,080 hard people work for a nickname darkness 2074 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:42,840 Dave Schrader's got a ring to it doesn't 2075 01:32:47,780 --> 01:32:44,970 it though it does it really that's it 2076 01:32:49,130 --> 01:32:47,790 your darkness Dave I like it I like it 2077 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:49,140 although it's hard when you have to get 2078 01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:52,170 introduced to the fiancees father and 2079 01:33:01,400 --> 01:32:54,960 you are darkness Dave haven't heard this 2080 01:33:04,820 --> 01:33:01,410 day yeah with a black tie black-eyed 2081 01:33:06,980 --> 01:33:04,830 children-- let's go there could I 2082 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,990 mention one thing real quick just is 2083 01:33:09,770 --> 01:33:08,400 we're talking scary things listen 2084 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:09,780 there's nothing scarier than something 2085 01:33:12,860 --> 01:33:11,250 that's going on in our country right now 2086 01:33:14,750 --> 01:33:12,870 and that's that's our neighbors our 2087 01:33:16,220 --> 01:33:14,760 friends our relatives that are dealing 2088 01:33:17,870 --> 01:33:16,230 with real hunger issues are going to bed 2089 01:33:20,150 --> 01:33:17,880 hungry their kids their wives their 2090 01:33:21,980 --> 01:33:20,160 husbands and we're working with Second 2091 01:33:23,690 --> 01:33:21,990 Harvest Heartland we do this every year 2092 01:33:25,700 --> 01:33:23,700 for a program called Halloween for 2093 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:25,710 hunger right and we help raise money for 2094 01:33:30,260 --> 01:33:28,170 Second Harvest Heartland every dollar we 2095 01:33:33,020 --> 01:33:30,270 raise literally one dollar supplies 2096 01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:33,030 three meals to a person in need so right 2097 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:35,100 now our campaign is going we're in our 2098 01:33:40,370 --> 01:33:37,130 fifth or sixth year of doing this and 2099 01:33:43,190 --> 01:33:40,380 our goal this year is $15,000 last year 2100 01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:43,200 it was five got bumped up to 8 we 2101 01:33:46,990 --> 01:33:45,450 shattered eight made it up to 13,000 2102 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:47,000 eight this year we set our goal for 2103 01:33:52,730 --> 01:33:49,890 $15,000 so we could help supply 45,000 2104 01:33:55,010 --> 01:33:52,740 meals to people in need here in the 2105 01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:55,020 United States the people that you know 2106 01:33:57,950 --> 01:33:56,610 that are right down the street from you 2107 01:34:00,200 --> 01:33:57,960 that it might need help that you don't 2108 01:34:01,850 --> 01:34:00,210 even know about so we take this very 2109 01:34:03,050 --> 01:34:01,860 seriously very personally and if you 2110 01:34:05,300 --> 01:34:03,060 could help us with our Halloween for 2111 01:34:08,180 --> 01:34:05,310 hunger campaign go to darkness radio.com 2112 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:08,190 and click on the Halloween for hunger 2113 01:34:14,090 --> 01:34:10,890 banner if you can't find it email me 2114 01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:14,100 Dave at darkness radio.com and I'll send 2115 01:34:18,350 --> 01:34:16,080 you the link that's Dave at darkness 2116 01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:18,360 radio.com but we could use your help 2117 01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:20,400 we've got a week left in our program for 2118 01:34:23,930 --> 01:34:22,290 Halloween for hunger we're about six 2119 01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:23,940 thousand dollars in we have a long way 2120 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:25,920 to go in a short time to get there so if 2121 01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:27,090 you could help us out we'd really 2122 01:34:32,210 --> 01:34:29,040 appreciate that I'm putting up the link 2123 01:34:35,189 --> 01:34:32,220 right now and we'll get the fader nuts 2124 01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:35,199 on it nothing like our 2125 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:37,600 not family the absolutely best of the 2126 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:40,330 absolute best I've got it up darkness 2127 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:41,530 radio.com 2128 01:34:46,590 --> 01:34:43,690 it's right there or everybody retweet it 2129 01:34:48,419 --> 01:34:46,600 and take care of business and head over 2130 01:34:50,580 --> 01:34:48,429 for a Halloween for hunger at darkness 2131 01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:50,590 radio and and thank you for that Dave 2132 01:34:55,620 --> 01:34:52,510 and I heard the announcement we were 2133 01:34:58,650 --> 01:34:55,630 listening to you on coasts over the 2134 01:35:00,930 --> 01:34:58,660 weekend Rita and I and then she turned 2135 01:35:03,150 --> 01:35:00,940 to me Chico's Church you know how come I 2136 01:35:04,650 --> 01:35:03,160 said okay you know what we'll start 2137 01:35:07,290 --> 01:35:04,660 something like sickos Dave's the best 2138 01:35:10,229 --> 01:35:07,300 he's out there doing it Church why 2139 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:10,239 aren't you doing you know so there you 2140 01:35:15,229 --> 01:35:12,610 go so thank you for reminding me of my 2141 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:15,239 wife reminding me that I need to do more 2142 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:18,130 so there you go Moll I'm all about 2143 01:35:22,620 --> 01:35:20,050 helping that's where it all comes from 2144 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:22,630 she's laughing right now she knows she 2145 01:35:29,939 --> 01:35:24,130 knows that conversation we had in the 2146 01:35:34,110 --> 01:35:29,949 car okay yeah black-eyed children one of 2147 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:34,120 the one of the I mean it's just a scary 2148 01:35:39,890 --> 01:35:36,730 thought right you know putting putting 2149 01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:39,900 something like that into children but 2150 01:35:46,530 --> 01:35:44,400 for you there's there's a lot of 2151 01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:46,540 incredible encounters out there with 2152 01:35:50,910 --> 01:35:48,160 black-eyed children share a story with 2153 01:35:53,220 --> 01:35:50,920 us sure I've got a bunch some of my 2154 01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:53,230 favorites one of them and in for 2155 01:35:56,669 --> 01:35:55,150 listeners that are not familiar they're 2156 01:35:59,700 --> 01:35:56,679 living in a cave somewhere and this is 2157 01:36:01,439 --> 01:35:59,710 their first show black-eyed kids is this 2158 01:36:04,290 --> 01:36:01,449 very strange phenomena that has appeared 2159 01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:04,300 it's little kids usually in groups of 2160 01:36:08,189 --> 01:36:06,760 anywhere from one to three or four and 2161 01:36:10,350 --> 01:36:08,199 they could be anywhere in age from 2162 01:36:12,150 --> 01:36:10,360 around five years old up to around 14 2163 01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:12,160 years old usually dressed very casual 2164 01:36:15,450 --> 01:36:13,840 nondescript clothing it's not like 2165 01:36:17,729 --> 01:36:15,460 they're out there and Adidas hats and 2166 01:36:20,570 --> 01:36:17,739 sweatshirts and Birkenstocks they're 2167 01:36:23,610 --> 01:36:20,580 they're always very plainly dressed and 2168 01:36:25,290 --> 01:36:23,620 they have an objective there's usually 2169 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:25,300 one spokesman in the group and they'll 2170 01:36:28,919 --> 01:36:27,130 they'll begin by knocking on the door 2171 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:28,929 and telling you were we're lost we need 2172 01:36:32,939 --> 01:36:30,610 to call our mom can you please let us in 2173 01:36:34,530 --> 01:36:32,949 won't you let us in well where's your 2174 01:36:36,419 --> 01:36:34,540 mom from you know do you have a cell 2175 01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:36,429 phone no please just let us and we need 2176 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:38,320 to make a call the other two kids don't 2177 01:36:42,810 --> 01:36:40,210 talk it's only after a few moments of 2178 01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:42,820 engaging these children that the people 2179 01:36:47,790 --> 01:36:44,260 will realize that these children have 2180 01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:47,800 dark black eyes completely jet black 2181 01:36:51,210 --> 01:36:49,030 eyes 2182 01:36:54,750 --> 01:36:51,220 there's no white exposed at all the 2183 01:36:55,980 --> 01:36:54,760 entire sclera is black and people have 2184 01:36:57,810 --> 01:36:55,990 been encountering these as a matter of 2185 01:36:59,940 --> 01:36:57,820 fact a reporter was one of the first 2186 01:37:01,470 --> 01:36:59,950 people back in the 90s to actually come 2187 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:01,480 out and talk about his encounter with 2188 01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:04,810 these beings he was outside of a store 2189 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:06,610 in a movie theater they were approaching 2190 01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:07,930 and asking him for ride home so they 2191 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:09,280 could get money to get back and see the 2192 01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:11,290 movie he was alerted of the fact it was 2193 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:13,990 pretty late at night already and the 2194 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:15,760 mood last movie had already started and 2195 01:37:21,090 --> 01:37:18,250 it just felt off and then he got this 2196 01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:21,100 overwhelming fear feeling and that's 2197 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:22,510 when he realized that they had jet black 2198 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:25,330 eyes so we started talking about this 2199 01:37:29,850 --> 01:37:27,610 phenomena on our show and listeners 2200 01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:29,860 started responding terrified because 2201 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:32,370 some of them had had experiences and 2202 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:34,930 here are a couple of my favorites one of 2203 01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:36,250 them we call the honeymoon for horror 2204 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:39,820 and the couple had gotten married they 2205 01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:42,130 had a nice beach wedding kind of thing 2206 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:44,080 that you see in the movies the wife had 2207 01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:45,370 always dreamed about that he wanted to 2208 01:37:48,690 --> 01:37:46,480 make it happen for him so they had a 2209 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:48,700 nice little destination wedding and as 2210 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:50,650 the Sun begins to set she says let's 2211 01:37:54,570 --> 01:37:51,970 take a walk down the beach we'll watch 2212 01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:54,580 the sunset husband and wife sweet moment 2213 01:37:58,500 --> 01:37:56,560 they're going down the sky is just 2214 01:38:00,360 --> 01:37:58,510 absolutely beautiful the sound of the 2215 01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:00,370 waves crashing they're all alone on this 2216 01:38:04,230 --> 01:38:02,050 beautiful beaches they're making their 2217 01:38:05,820 --> 01:38:04,240 way down heading towards a pier a pier 2218 01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:05,830 that's busy all during the day with 2219 01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:08,110 fishermen and vendors but at night it's 2220 01:38:13,380 --> 01:38:11,080 it's empty and as they're walking their 2221 01:38:14,700 --> 01:38:13,390 attention is suddenly drawn to this what 2222 01:38:17,070 --> 01:38:14,710 appears to be a little girl 2223 01:38:19,140 --> 01:38:17,080 and she's wearing what looks like like a 2224 01:38:21,150 --> 01:38:19,150 white nightgown or slip and she's 2225 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:21,160 calling out please can you help me 2226 01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:23,530 please come help me and the two of them 2227 01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,550 look at each other and of course being 2228 01:38:27,930 --> 01:38:26,080 good people they start moving closer to 2229 01:38:29,730 --> 01:38:27,940 this little girl and she's walking 2230 01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:29,740 backwards motioning for them to follow 2231 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:32,350 her please please come hurry you've got 2232 01:38:37,500 --> 01:38:34,090 to help so they're walking down the 2233 01:38:39,390 --> 01:38:37,510 beach they get down by the pier and this 2234 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:39,400 girl begins to walk into the water and 2235 01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:41,530 she keeps beckoning for them and they 2236 01:38:46,860 --> 01:38:44,290 stop and their spidey senses are just 2237 01:38:48,930 --> 01:38:46,870 tingling there's something just horrific 2238 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:48,940 Olear Ong now first of all is this a 2239 01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:50,650 refugee boat are they going to find a 2240 01:38:54,390 --> 01:38:52,960 bunch of bodies capsized and floating 2241 01:38:56,460 --> 01:38:54,400 there in the water that's one of the 2242 01:38:57,870 --> 01:38:56,470 thoughts you know is is there somebody 2243 01:38:59,370 --> 01:38:57,880 waiting there to jump them and take 2244 01:39:02,070 --> 01:38:59,380 their money that's the next thought and 2245 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:02,080 they pause and they say well you know 2246 01:39:04,500 --> 01:39:02,770 what we're going to 2247 01:39:07,500 --> 01:39:04,510 to the resort we're gonna get somebody 2248 01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:07,510 that can help you and the little girl 2249 01:39:11,130 --> 01:39:09,310 starts walking forward and she says no I 2250 01:39:13,290 --> 01:39:11,140 need you you must come now and then she 2251 01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:13,300 comes out of the water she's closer to 2252 01:39:17,790 --> 01:39:15,280 them than that she's ever been and they 2253 01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:17,800 notice her face is very veiny she's very 2254 01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:19,870 pale and veiny with these giant black 2255 01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:23,110 eyes the husband grabs the wife's hand 2256 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:24,880 they turn around and started hightailing 2257 01:39:30,450 --> 01:39:27,520 it up the beach now they said that they 2258 01:39:32,430 --> 01:39:30,460 hadn't walked very long but they 2259 01:39:34,500 --> 01:39:32,440 realized just how far away from the 2260 01:39:36,690 --> 01:39:34,510 resort they'd gotten on this private 2261 01:39:39,330 --> 01:39:36,700 beach and what really unnerved him was 2262 01:39:41,940 --> 01:39:39,340 he looked down they're following their 2263 01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:41,950 footsteps back there's no third set of 2264 01:39:47,310 --> 01:39:43,570 footprints there's no little girl's 2265 01:39:50,130 --> 01:39:47,320 footprints in the sand so they get all 2266 01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:50,140 the way back down to the resort they 2267 01:39:52,770 --> 01:39:51,760 kind of report what's going on they find 2268 01:39:53,940 --> 01:39:52,780 one of the people and they're like this 2269 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:53,950 is what's going they said please don't 2270 01:39:58,170 --> 01:39:56,650 go down in that area anymore we can't be 2271 01:39:59,610 --> 01:39:58,180 responsible for you that far down and 2272 01:40:02,970 --> 01:39:59,620 we're not going to send our security 2273 01:40:05,130 --> 01:40:02,980 down that far and there they're like 2274 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:05,140 well wait a minute so is this bad are 2275 01:40:09,930 --> 01:40:06,490 there pirates or something down there 2276 01:40:11,130 --> 01:40:09,940 are they you know thugs we just we have 2277 01:40:12,540 --> 01:40:11,140 to insist that if you go down there 2278 01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:12,550 you're on your own but don't go down 2279 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:13,150 there anymore 2280 01:40:17,070 --> 01:40:15,010 so that was their encounter they're like 2281 01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:17,080 holy hell what kind of night was this 2282 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:19,600 just absolutely chilling and they have 2283 01:40:25,470 --> 01:40:21,970 this moment and there's this black eyed 2284 01:40:28,020 --> 01:40:25,480 girl in the story and we started to hear 2285 01:40:30,180 --> 01:40:28,030 more and more of these tales and I 2286 01:40:31,530 --> 01:40:30,190 started to think is this urban legend is 2287 01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:31,540 this just something that's growing 2288 01:40:36,030 --> 01:40:33,670 because people are sharing they want to 2289 01:40:37,740 --> 01:40:36,040 become part of this history right and 2290 01:40:39,900 --> 01:40:37,750 one of our listeners is listening to the 2291 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:39,910 show and she's at home and her 2292 01:40:44,250 --> 01:40:41,890 grandmother had come in hears these 2293 01:40:46,830 --> 01:40:44,260 stories being told and the grandmothers 2294 01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:46,840 jaw just hits the floor and she's she's 2295 01:40:52,650 --> 01:40:50,350 Asian and she tells her I've got a story 2296 01:40:55,110 --> 01:40:52,660 to tell you about this she said where I 2297 01:40:56,580 --> 01:40:55,120 grew up in my village she goes you know 2298 01:40:59,490 --> 01:40:56,590 we would we were very close we would 2299 01:41:00,960 --> 01:40:59,500 sleep in the same room on these mats she 2300 01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:00,970 said and there were some children that 2301 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:02,880 had gone missing in our village 2302 01:41:07,260 --> 01:41:05,650 she said she woke up one night to see 2303 01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:07,270 her brother who was just a year or two 2304 01:41:11,790 --> 01:41:08,770 older than her standing in the doorway 2305 01:41:13,530 --> 01:41:11,800 beckoning for her to come and she goes 2306 01:41:16,890 --> 01:41:13,540 no we're going to get in trouble and he 2307 01:41:18,930 --> 01:41:16,900 come let's go play let's go play Bo so 2308 01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:18,940 she thinks well he's the older brother 2309 01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:21,520 if I go play if we get busted he's gonna 2310 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:23,920 be the one to get in trouble so she kind 2311 01:41:27,900 --> 01:41:26,410 of you know again begrudgingly decides 2312 01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:27,910 well yeah why not let's go this is kind 2313 01:41:30,930 --> 01:41:29,380 of fun and exciting and as she gets up 2314 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:30,940 and starts to walk she trips and looks 2315 01:41:35,580 --> 01:41:32,850 down and there's her brother sleeping 2316 01:41:39,780 --> 01:41:35,590 she looks back in the doorway and there 2317 01:41:41,970 --> 01:41:39,790 is this child her brother sighs standing 2318 01:41:43,410 --> 01:41:41,980 there waving her on jet-black eyes 2319 01:41:45,780 --> 01:41:43,420 trying to get her to come out of the 2320 01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:45,790 house she turns around hightails it back 2321 01:41:51,210 --> 01:41:48,700 underneath her blankets she's moaning 2322 01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:51,220 and crying trying to get some attention 2323 01:41:55,500 --> 01:41:53,200 in the room but afraid to cry out too 2324 01:41:57,660 --> 01:41:55,510 loud and then she could hear footsteps 2325 01:41:59,730 --> 01:41:57,670 coming into the room and something was 2326 01:42:01,140 --> 01:41:59,740 crawling across the mat to get to her 2327 01:42:03,870 --> 01:42:01,150 and that's when she let out with a howl 2328 01:42:06,570 --> 01:42:03,880 the family woke up turned on lights 2329 01:42:08,580 --> 01:42:06,580 nobody else is there they thought she 2330 01:42:10,710 --> 01:42:08,590 was just having a nightmare she swears 2331 01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:10,720 by the fact this was not a dream she was 2332 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:12,730 awake her brother was beckoning her to 2333 01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:14,890 leave she's sure that had she followed 2334 01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:17,590 that black-eyed kid out of that home and 2335 01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:19,480 gone with him she would have disappeared 2336 01:42:24,570 --> 01:42:20,560 like the other children in the village 2337 01:42:27,180 --> 01:42:24,580 whoa whoa and this is this is 2338 01:42:28,530 --> 01:42:27,190 factual-based right that this is 2339 01:42:30,150 --> 01:42:28,540 something that all of a sudden you're 2340 01:42:31,650 --> 01:42:30,160 hearing these stories coming from around 2341 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:31,660 the world and again all right this is 2342 01:42:34,980 --> 01:42:33,010 fascinating that's an old one that's 2343 01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:34,990 from like the 50s right so suddenly 2344 01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:36,070 we're certain to get these old ones and 2345 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:37,900 then I'm left still scratching my head 2346 01:42:41,070 --> 01:42:39,130 I'm like all right well this is weird 2347 01:42:42,570 --> 01:42:41,080 but you know I don't know and then I got 2348 01:42:43,950 --> 01:42:42,580 to tell you the two stories I got that 2349 01:42:45,150 --> 01:42:43,960 we're off air they asked me not to 2350 01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:45,160 mention their names where they were 2351 01:42:50,370 --> 01:42:48,130 stationed but they both were two totally 2352 01:42:52,530 --> 01:42:50,380 different guys in the military they did 2353 01:42:54,990 --> 01:42:52,540 not know one another but their stories 2354 01:42:59,850 --> 01:42:55,000 were eerily the same both guys had been 2355 01:43:01,860 --> 01:42:59,860 injured over in Iraq and that's as much 2356 01:43:03,390 --> 01:43:01,870 as I can say about where they were but 2357 01:43:05,550 --> 01:43:03,400 they were both injured at different 2358 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:05,560 times and both of them had encountered 2359 01:43:10,290 --> 01:43:07,930 black eyed children that had beckoned 2360 01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:10,300 them and tried to get them and they had 2361 01:43:14,220 --> 01:43:12,490 followed to see what was going on and 2362 01:43:15,630 --> 01:43:14,230 again you have to be very careful out 2363 01:43:17,730 --> 01:43:15,640 there because they would strap children 2364 01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:17,740 with bombs in a lot of places and blow 2365 01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:19,750 you up so they were trying to talk to 2366 01:43:23,610 --> 01:43:21,490 the children see what's going on but 2367 01:43:25,650 --> 01:43:23,620 they had seen these black-eyed kids that 2368 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:25,660 would appear before traumatic things 2369 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:27,210 much like a Mothman episode 2370 01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,010 that would happen there would be an 2371 01:43:33,700 --> 01:43:31,440 explosion in and they would be hurting 2372 01:43:36,500 --> 01:43:33,710 other people but the kids would vanish 2373 01:43:39,050 --> 01:43:36,510 so when you start hearing this for 2374 01:43:40,820 --> 01:43:39,060 military personnel and then it started 2375 01:43:42,170 --> 01:43:40,830 coming in from all over and military 2376 01:43:43,340 --> 01:43:42,180 personnel people chatting with me and 2377 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:43,350 telling me unfortunately a lot of them 2378 01:43:46,190 --> 01:43:44,730 like I said did not want to go on the 2379 01:43:48,830 --> 01:43:46,200 record or I didn't want to give names 2380 01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:48,840 right but I knew some of them personally 2381 01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:51,450 I've heard the story so it gets to be 2382 01:43:56,690 --> 01:43:53,840 very chilling when you start to hear 2383 01:43:58,729 --> 01:43:56,700 what's going on in and how many people 2384 01:44:01,459 --> 01:43:58,739 are being affected by this and here in 2385 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:01,469 Minnesota we've got all of these 10,000 2386 01:44:05,390 --> 01:44:03,050 lakes that people love to go run around 2387 01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:05,400 one of our listeners tells me Dave I got 2388 01:44:08,780 --> 01:44:06,690 to tell you the story she was I get up 2389 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:08,790 every morning at five o'clock I'd go out 2390 01:44:13,130 --> 01:44:10,890 and I run I get a good 45 minutes hour 2391 01:44:14,900 --> 01:44:13,140 long run in she goes I'm about a half an 2392 01:44:17,390 --> 01:44:14,910 hour into my run and I run past this 2393 01:44:18,890 --> 01:44:17,400 park bench and there are three she goes 2394 01:44:21,170 --> 01:44:18,900 they look like they're maybe between 10 2395 01:44:23,450 --> 01:44:21,180 and 14 years old boys that are kind of 2396 01:44:25,070 --> 01:44:23,460 huddled around this bench and I'm 2397 01:44:27,020 --> 01:44:25,080 running and I've got my earbuds in and 2398 01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:27,030 I'm listening to some music and they all 2399 01:44:30,440 --> 01:44:28,560 said it just kind of hit me boy is it 2400 01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:30,450 early out what are these kids doing out 2401 01:44:34,580 --> 01:44:32,760 at this time of morning so she stops and 2402 01:44:36,020 --> 01:44:34,590 she turns and two of them were standing 2403 01:44:39,620 --> 01:44:36,030 about three feet away from her just 2404 01:44:42,260 --> 01:44:39,630 standing there and I'm hops her earbuds 2405 01:44:44,780 --> 01:44:42,270 out and she goes is everything okay boys 2406 01:44:47,930 --> 01:44:44,790 right and they go yeah we just want to 2407 01:44:49,370 --> 01:44:47,940 play with you and she said pardon me we 2408 01:44:51,530 --> 01:44:49,380 just want to play with you and that's 2409 01:44:53,959 --> 01:44:51,540 when her heart stopped because she 2410 01:44:57,020 --> 01:44:53,969 realized there were only two boys there 2411 01:44:59,660 --> 01:44:57,030 where was the third boy she spins around 2412 01:45:01,700 --> 01:44:59,670 and standing right behind her is the 2413 01:45:04,580 --> 01:45:01,710 third boy and he just has this huge 2414 01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:04,590 creepy grin on his face then she noticed 2415 01:45:09,530 --> 01:45:06,650 his eyes jet-black 2416 01:45:11,390 --> 01:45:09,540 completely black she turns and starts 2417 01:45:13,550 --> 01:45:11,400 running not in the opposite direction 2418 01:45:16,190 --> 01:45:13,560 about she takes like about a 45 degree 2419 01:45:17,930 --> 01:45:16,200 turn and just starts running gets out of 2420 01:45:19,340 --> 01:45:17,940 there she said I will never run in that 2421 01:45:20,990 --> 01:45:19,350 area again I don't know what I 2422 01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:21,000 encountered but the overwhelming 2423 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:23,760 crushing fear was unbelievable and these 2424 01:45:26,750 --> 01:45:24,330 were kids 2425 01:45:29,090 --> 01:45:26,760 Dave I'm in good shape I take care of 2426 01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:29,100 myself I know if it came down to it I 2427 01:45:33,050 --> 01:45:30,719 could have beat these kids up if I had 2428 01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:33,060 to but there was something terrifying 2429 01:45:36,620 --> 01:45:35,040 about them and then when I noticed the 2430 01:45:39,170 --> 01:45:36,630 one kid with the black eyes I just I 2431 01:45:40,189 --> 01:45:39,180 needed out I wanted out and that that's 2432 01:45:45,620 --> 01:45:40,199 exactly what she had 2433 01:45:49,339 --> 01:45:45,630 doing it frightening story right yeah is 2434 01:45:54,169 --> 01:45:49,349 is all of those were and I want to get 2435 01:45:57,290 --> 01:45:54,179 to Malaysia of next a very very scary 2436 01:45:58,520 --> 01:45:57,300 stuff going on in Malaysia we're gonna 2437 01:46:01,129 --> 01:45:58,530 do that then let me give you my final 2438 01:46:03,219 --> 01:46:01,139 blanket kid encounter okay and well this 2439 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:03,229 is my point I do want to hear it next is 2440 01:46:10,279 --> 01:46:06,090 is this what I was talking about earlier 2441 01:46:12,830 --> 01:46:10,289 where are we you know creating this 2442 01:46:15,969 --> 01:46:12,840 reality are we manifesting this is this 2443 01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:15,979 the hive mind that is creating a very 2444 01:46:23,779 --> 01:46:21,119 real phenomena it does start to make you 2445 01:46:25,459 --> 01:46:23,789 pause to question that because again so 2446 01:46:26,959 --> 01:46:25,469 many people your listeners my listeners 2447 01:46:28,489 --> 01:46:26,969 listeners of coast-to-coast I've heard 2448 01:46:30,799 --> 01:46:28,499 these black-eyed kids stories and right 2449 01:46:33,049 --> 01:46:30,809 right right and you get this hive 2450 01:46:34,489 --> 01:46:33,059 collective you get this mindset and I've 2451 01:46:35,899 --> 01:46:34,499 been I've been I got to be honest with 2452 01:46:38,629 --> 01:46:35,909 you I'm a little unnerved when I'm out 2453 01:46:40,189 --> 01:46:38,639 by myself walking the dog and it's laid 2454 01:46:42,379 --> 01:46:40,199 out and I'll see a couple of kids start 2455 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:42,389 to approach yeah right because I think a 2456 01:46:47,209 --> 01:46:44,489 if I brought this on myself what am I 2457 01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:47,219 gonna do and my dogs useless so he's not 2458 01:46:50,180 --> 01:46:48,570 gonna protect me at all 2459 01:46:52,549 --> 01:46:50,190 yeah you know how do you how do you 2460 01:46:53,930 --> 01:46:52,559 respond to this but thankfully to this 2461 01:46:55,339 --> 01:46:53,940 date I've never had a black eyed kid 2462 01:46:57,350 --> 01:46:55,349 encounter and I do get a kick out of the 2463 01:46:58,459 --> 01:46:57,360 fact you know that you get the skeptics 2464 01:47:00,410 --> 01:46:58,469 out there Jimmy in the well you know 2465 01:47:02,029 --> 01:47:00,420 there's scelera contacts you can wear 2466 01:47:03,890 --> 01:47:02,039 well first of all most of the jet black 2467 01:47:05,870 --> 01:47:03,900 sclera contacts that black out your eye 2468 01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:05,880 right they're harder than hell to get in 2469 01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:08,159 alright second of all those are usually 2470 01:47:13,069 --> 01:47:10,260 in the neighborhood of about 200 to 300 2471 01:47:15,469 --> 01:47:13,079 dollars or a pair of the scelera the eye 2472 01:47:17,330 --> 01:47:15,479 contacts right so I don't know many 2473 01:47:19,370 --> 01:47:17,340 parents that are gonna do that or kids 2474 01:47:21,529 --> 01:47:19,380 that can afford to do and here old kids 2475 01:47:23,509 --> 01:47:21,539 right and right and then who's gonna 2476 01:47:26,209 --> 01:47:23,519 send their kids out at that time a night 2477 01:47:27,709 --> 01:47:26,219 to play a joke on somebody I would but 2478 01:47:30,259 --> 01:47:27,719 see this is the thing even in this 2479 01:47:33,739 --> 01:47:30,269 conceal and carry environment yeah this 2480 01:47:35,029 --> 01:47:33,749 is the thing after tonight's show I feel 2481 01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:35,039 sorry you know a little kid out there 2482 01:47:45,709 --> 01:47:43,549 okay then you'll love this story in the 2483 01:47:47,060 --> 01:47:45,719 response we got from it our final story 2484 01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:47,070 that I'll share with your listeners 2485 01:47:52,699 --> 01:47:49,920 tonight is one of my favorites and it 2486 01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:52,709 takes place in Minnesota we about four 2487 01:47:56,410 --> 01:47:53,810 or five years ago we 2488 01:47:59,200 --> 01:47:56,420 this lag was just about raining every 2489 01:48:02,890 --> 01:47:59,210 day for about four weeks rain rain rain 2490 01:48:05,170 --> 01:48:02,900 gloomy crappy weather and we have 2491 01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:05,180 settled listeners who love to listen or 2492 01:48:08,440 --> 01:48:06,410 show when they go to bed they would 2493 01:48:10,270 --> 01:48:08,450 their nightly ritual was watched the 2494 01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:10,280 news till 10:00 turn off the news go to 2495 01:48:15,730 --> 01:48:11,840 bed turn on the radio and kind of listen 2496 01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:15,740 to us as they fall asleep and great 2497 01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:18,080 couple they said one night they're just 2498 01:48:21,460 --> 01:48:19,910 they flip off the TV and they can hear 2499 01:48:23,500 --> 01:48:21,470 what sounds like kids laughing and 2500 01:48:25,660 --> 01:48:23,510 playing outside and the husband said to 2501 01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:25,670 her what are kids doing out at ten 2502 01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:28,370 o'clock at night and she said honey it's 2503 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:30,410 been raining non-stop we used to play in 2504 01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:31,610 puddles when we were a kid we'd go 2505 01:48:34,900 --> 01:48:33,440 outside and play it's not a big deal 2506 01:48:36,370 --> 01:48:34,910 that parents probably just need a break 2507 01:48:37,660 --> 01:48:36,380 and they probably sent their kids out 2508 01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:37,670 because there's no thunder right now 2509 01:48:41,890 --> 01:48:39,490 it's just light rain I can go there huh 2510 01:48:44,050 --> 01:48:41,900 yeah he goes all right that's fine so he 2511 01:48:46,540 --> 01:48:44,060 they go to bed about three o'clock in 2512 01:48:48,820 --> 01:48:46,550 the morning she wakes up and standing 2513 01:48:50,650 --> 01:48:48,830 next to the bed are three children two 2514 01:48:54,430 --> 01:48:50,660 little boys and in the middle is a 2515 01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:54,440 little girl with braids and her breath 2516 01:48:56,620 --> 01:48:56,090 catches and she says now Dave I'm a good 2517 01:48:58,150 --> 01:48:56,630 listener 2518 01:49:00,010 --> 01:48:58,160 I've heard you talk about the hypnagogic 2519 01:49:02,050 --> 01:49:00,020 and hypnopompic states those are the 2520 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:02,060 moments going in and out of sleep when 2521 01:49:06,190 --> 01:49:04,370 reality and dreams can sometimes meld 2522 01:49:08,230 --> 01:49:06,200 together where Jimmy and Dave are 2523 01:49:10,300 --> 01:49:08,240 talking at a cafe in Paris in a dream 2524 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:10,310 and I get a startle because my cat 2525 01:49:13,570 --> 01:49:11,450 knocks something over and I start to 2526 01:49:15,910 --> 01:49:13,580 wake up and then Jimmy slowly morphs 2527 01:49:18,460 --> 01:49:15,920 into a black figure in my room and then 2528 01:49:20,050 --> 01:49:18,470 my Hollywood horror movie mind kicks in 2529 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:20,060 and that figure runs up the wall and the 2530 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:22,250 ceiling and vanishes and it's usually a 2531 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:25,250 quick 10 to 15 seconds because then your 2532 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:27,170 brain catches up right and that's all 2533 01:49:31,180 --> 01:49:29,210 these beings suddenly vanished so she 2534 01:49:33,970 --> 01:49:31,190 said I'm aware of the hypnagogic it in a 2535 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:33,980 pompous state I closed my eyes I take a 2536 01:49:37,450 --> 01:49:35,810 couple of deep cleansing breaths because 2537 01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:37,460 I know but now when I open my eyes 2538 01:49:41,470 --> 01:49:39,920 they're gonna be gone she was and I'm 2539 01:49:43,480 --> 01:49:41,480 just thinking of how silly this was and 2540 01:49:45,610 --> 01:49:43,490 how unnerved I was and I was trying to 2541 01:49:48,130 --> 01:49:45,620 remember what dream I was having that I 2542 01:49:51,370 --> 01:49:48,140 had kids in the dream I opened my eyes 2543 01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:51,380 and they're still standing there so she 2544 01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:53,450 opens her mouth to scream and starts to 2545 01:49:57,900 --> 01:49:55,130 reach over to her husband to shake him 2546 01:50:02,140 --> 01:49:57,910 and the little girl steps forward and 2547 01:50:06,370 --> 01:50:02,150 places her finger to her lips and says 2548 01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:06,380 we just want to look at you oh man she 2549 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:09,770 howls the husband jumps up turns on the 2550 01:50:13,959 --> 01:50:11,930 light kids are gone she tells him what 2551 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:13,969 she's just seen they go room to room 2552 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:15,610 turning every light on in the house 2553 01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:17,930 absolutely terrified by what they just 2554 01:50:23,770 --> 01:50:21,890 witnessed they can't find anything they 2555 01:50:25,150 --> 01:50:23,780 go in leave all the lights on in the 2556 01:50:27,310 --> 01:50:25,160 house they're cuddle up in bed for the 2557 01:50:28,900 --> 01:50:27,320 rest of the night until morning starts 2558 01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:28,910 to break through the windows they 2559 01:50:32,500 --> 01:50:30,530 finally feel a sense of relief that they 2560 01:50:33,580 --> 01:50:32,510 can relax and go to sleep and that's 2561 01:50:35,890 --> 01:50:33,590 when they could hear the sound of the 2562 01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:35,900 kids outside playing again and that was 2563 01:50:40,330 --> 01:50:38,239 this final story that we shared one 2564 01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:40,340 night on our show knows about 11:45 at 2565 01:50:45,490 --> 01:50:41,690 night when we started to tell that story 2566 01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:45,500 and you know that it's great and you 2567 01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:47,510 have some really interesting topics when 2568 01:50:52,209 --> 01:50:49,610 you have the police approached you and 2569 01:50:53,050 --> 01:50:52,219 we had a cop in Minnesota contact me and 2570 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:53,060 he goes listen I got to tell you 2571 01:50:55,930 --> 01:50:54,530 something my partner and I and a lot of 2572 01:50:58,150 --> 01:50:55,940 the cops in this state I mean I sort of 2573 01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:58,160 love to listen to your show we don't buy 2574 01:51:02,380 --> 01:50:59,840 it at all we think the paranormal is a 2575 01:51:04,660 --> 01:51:02,390 bunch of nonsense but it's great radio 2576 01:51:06,939 --> 01:51:04,670 it's old theater the mine style radio 2577 01:51:09,700 --> 01:51:06,949 and we love it and we love the scares we 2578 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:09,710 love the stories and it does make us 2579 01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:11,690 question things from time to time and he 2580 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:13,040 goes but you got done the other night 2581 01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:14,570 telling the story about the three little 2582 01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:17,810 kids and he goes radio goes off My 2583 01:51:21,729 --> 01:51:19,280 partner and I are laughing about it 2584 01:51:23,890 --> 01:51:21,739 talking when suddenly over our radio a 2585 01:51:26,950 --> 01:51:23,900 call comes in there's an old woman 2586 01:51:28,959 --> 01:51:26,960 replying or calling in to say she has 2587 01:51:30,340 --> 01:51:28,969 three children standing in her yard she 2588 01:51:33,430 --> 01:51:30,350 doesn't know who they are and they won't 2589 01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:33,440 go away no he said I looked at my 2590 01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:35,360 partner my partner looked at me we 2591 01:51:41,530 --> 01:51:37,520 leaned forward turned off our radio said 2592 01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:41,540 Oh screw that so you thought I was bad 2593 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:43,010 for not wanting to go up when I hear 2594 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:44,810 there's something held in my son's room 2595 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:46,850 the cops who are hired to protect and 2596 01:51:51,610 --> 01:51:49,449 serve us refused to take the call 2597 01:51:53,229 --> 01:51:51,620 because there's a chance they might have 2598 01:51:55,390 --> 01:51:53,239 run into the black-eyed kids so I'm not 2599 01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:55,400 as bad as I seem now as I was earlier 2600 01:52:00,040 --> 01:51:57,110 did a right jab I mean can you blame 2601 01:52:02,830 --> 01:52:00,050 them no I don't know no they're still 2602 01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:02,840 human you know and that was great and I 2603 01:52:05,470 --> 01:52:04,370 just loved that that was their response 2604 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:05,480 and they reached out to me in all 2605 01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:07,370 honesty to say I got to tell you you got 2606 01:52:12,610 --> 01:52:09,770 me that was a great story that was a 2607 01:52:14,620 --> 01:52:12,620 freaky aspect of this to get into and 2608 01:52:15,790 --> 01:52:14,630 that opened up a lot of doors a lot of 2609 01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:15,800 people started sharing their 2610 01:52:19,569 --> 01:52:18,110 and I've heard tons of other black-eyed 2611 01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:19,579 kids or as most of them are very short 2612 01:52:22,510 --> 01:52:21,290 those are among my favorites that I 2613 01:52:24,580 --> 01:52:22,520 shared with you tonight that always 2614 01:52:26,830 --> 01:52:24,590 there they're creepy they're impactful 2615 01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:26,840 they're just weird but that baguettes 2616 01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,119 our next creature and we talked a little 2617 01:52:32,830 --> 01:52:31,040 bit earlier about nightmares and we 2618 01:52:35,319 --> 01:52:32,840 talked about The Nightmare on Elm Street 2619 01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:35,329 movie and I think what's fascinating 2620 01:52:39,339 --> 01:52:37,520 about that and people don't realize it 2621 01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:39,349 we said why do we love horror movies why 2622 01:52:43,180 --> 01:52:40,880 do we love these scares and a lot of it 2623 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:43,190 is because like with zombies they're the 2624 01:52:46,299 --> 01:52:44,690 perfect killing machine because they're 2625 01:52:48,220 --> 01:52:46,309 our neighbors they're our friends and 2626 01:52:50,049 --> 01:52:48,230 relatives there's somebody we care about 2627 01:52:52,180 --> 01:52:50,059 and they're right next door and they 2628 01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:52,190 could turn at any second and it's scary 2629 01:52:56,890 --> 01:52:55,010 as hell well there were two things that 2630 01:52:58,569 --> 01:52:56,900 inspired Wes Craven for his Nightmare on 2631 01:53:00,700 --> 01:52:58,579 Elm Street first off was the 2632 01:53:03,189 --> 01:53:00,710 assassination of JFK he just remembers 2633 01:53:04,839 --> 01:53:03,199 that headline in the newspaper because 2634 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:04,849 they were on Elm Street when JFK was 2635 01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:06,770 assassinated and it said Nightmare on 2636 01:53:12,250 --> 01:53:10,130 Elm Street and that stuck with him but 2637 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:12,260 that was only the beginning of the story 2638 01:53:17,649 --> 01:53:15,290 he also heard and this started taking 2639 01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:17,659 place in the 70s late 1970s through the 2640 01:53:23,649 --> 01:53:21,050 mid 1980s there was I think it was a 2641 01:53:24,540 --> 01:53:23,659 little over a hundred men that died in 2642 01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:24,550 their sleep 2643 01:53:28,510 --> 01:53:26,960 and until their final moments their 2644 01:53:30,549 --> 01:53:28,520 quiet and bad they were they were young 2645 01:53:32,430 --> 01:53:30,559 they were healthy their families were 2646 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:32,440 all stunned by what was going on and 2647 01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:34,610 investigators they were completely blown 2648 01:53:38,859 --> 01:53:36,650 away and with all the victims being 2649 01:53:41,709 --> 01:53:38,869 Asian the medical authorities actually 2650 01:53:44,049 --> 01:53:41,719 named it Asian death syndrome and 2651 01:53:47,290 --> 01:53:44,059 witnesses and families called it the 2652 01:53:48,970 --> 01:53:47,300 night terror and those first cases were 2653 01:53:52,660 --> 01:53:48,980 coming from California's Orange County 2654 01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:52,670 back in I think it was 75 76 77 2655 01:53:57,310 --> 01:53:54,800 somewhere in there so by the summer of 2656 01:53:59,160 --> 01:53:57,320 1980 120 people had already fallen 2657 01:54:01,470 --> 01:53:59,170 victim to this night terror and 2658 01:54:03,580 --> 01:54:01,480 authorities and medical responders 2659 01:54:05,740 --> 01:54:03,590 completely powerless what do you do you 2660 01:54:07,959 --> 01:54:05,750 get these people just go to sleep 2661 01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:07,969 healthy and fine and then they never 2662 01:54:13,660 --> 01:54:10,159 wake up so you've got this kind of 2663 01:54:15,010 --> 01:54:13,670 exotic terror that caught the media's 2664 01:54:16,899 --> 01:54:15,020 attention at the time and the Los 2665 01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:16,909 Angeles Times was running the string of 2666 01:54:20,979 --> 01:54:19,040 stories on in this medical mystery and 2667 01:54:25,330 --> 01:54:20,989 in 1981 the New York Times and 2668 01:54:27,390 --> 01:54:25,340 newspapers in in the East Coast they 2669 01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:27,400 started just devoting columns that were 2670 01:54:32,470 --> 01:54:29,570 deep into these 2671 01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:32,480 sleeeeep deaths and wes craven who was a 2672 01:54:37,089 --> 01:54:34,400 filmmaker and he had just a few very 2673 01:54:39,010 --> 01:54:37,099 kind of low-budget movies at that time 2674 01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:39,020 that he'd been working on he read these 2675 01:54:45,370 --> 01:54:43,280 stories and that was what spurred on the 2676 01:54:46,839 --> 01:54:45,380 story of Freddy Krueger and this killer 2677 01:54:48,459 --> 01:54:46,849 that attacks you in your dreams and the 2678 01:54:49,479 --> 01:54:48,469 old remember the old legend and lore you 2679 01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:49,489 probably heard when you were a kid if 2680 01:54:55,930 --> 01:54:52,610 you die in your sleep you die life yeah 2681 01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:55,940 I'm reading now a whole series of 2682 01:55:03,669 --> 01:54:58,880 articles from the early 80s about this I 2683 01:55:06,250 --> 01:55:03,679 had no idea throughout Southern 2684 01:55:10,479 --> 01:55:06,260 California the United States Philippines 2685 01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:10,489 Japan young Asian males night terror 2686 01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:13,520 sudden unexplained nocturnal deaths 2687 01:55:22,569 --> 01:55:17,119 oh how terrifying that it's rooted in 2688 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:22,579 reality wait wait wait wait stop the car 2689 01:55:31,290 --> 01:55:26,690 man you're telling me that the scariest 2690 01:55:37,149 --> 01:55:31,300 movie that I can remember that Kraven 2691 01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:37,159 based it on reality and no no no no I 2692 01:55:43,149 --> 01:55:41,360 don't need this man never been solved 2693 01:55:48,330 --> 01:55:43,159 Jimmy we still don't know what killed 2694 01:55:58,839 --> 01:55:53,680 sweet dreams right that's absolutely 2695 01:56:00,339 --> 01:55:58,849 incredible yeah Oh No yeah well I know 2696 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:00,349 you're up against the break again here 2697 01:56:04,450 --> 01:56:03,170 but we got a minute we got 90 seconds go 2698 01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:04,460 ahead let me let me tease you with this 2699 01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,810 when we come back 2700 01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:08,000 I got listeners that started to share 2701 01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:10,159 stories and I got another email was one 2702 01:56:14,470 --> 01:56:12,050 of those perfect emails that was Dave 2703 01:56:16,780 --> 01:56:14,480 I'm a listener I love the shows not a 2704 01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:16,790 believer in the supernatural never had a 2705 01:56:20,350 --> 01:56:18,710 paranormal experience in my life I think 2706 01:56:22,060 --> 01:56:20,360 it's funny to listen to these stories I 2707 01:56:23,500 --> 01:56:22,070 think it's outrageous these black-eyed 2708 01:56:25,390 --> 01:56:23,510 kids stories are awesome they're 2709 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:25,400 terrifying but anybody that believes 2710 01:56:30,609 --> 01:56:27,650 them are complete boneheads but with 2711 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:30,619 that said when I was a kid I had one of 2712 01:56:34,689 --> 01:56:32,810 the most terrifying experiences and I'd 2713 01:56:36,729 --> 01:56:34,699 like you to see if you can tell me if 2714 01:56:39,729 --> 01:56:36,739 you've ever heard of this or if any of 2715 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:39,739 your listeners had and he he unfolds 2716 01:56:43,450 --> 01:56:42,050 this this story and I'll tell you about 2717 01:56:45,250 --> 01:56:43,460 it when we come back after the break 2718 01:56:47,260 --> 01:56:45,260 that is one of the more chilling and 2719 01:56:49,150 --> 01:56:47,270 freaky stories and you wonder if this 2720 01:56:51,790 --> 01:56:49,160 might have been also an inspiration for 2721 01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:51,800 the character of Freddy Krueger we call 2722 01:57:00,580 --> 01:56:53,810 him raw head the bloody bones man 2723 01:57:02,890 --> 01:57:00,590 raw head the bloody Bonesmen okay oh no 2724 01:57:05,709 --> 01:57:02,900 all right let's take a break right here 2725 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:05,719 it is our Frightmare creatures night 2726 01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:07,610 with darkness Dave darkness Dave 2727 01:57:13,570 --> 01:57:12,110 Schrader darkness radio oh man I'm right 2728 01:57:15,550 --> 01:57:13,580 there I'm right there I didn't need that 2729 01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:15,560 Wes Craven story we're gonna continue 2730 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:18,410 this the origins of Freddy Krueger right 2731 01:57:21,970 --> 01:57:31,780 [Music] 2732 01:57:39,020 --> 01:57:34,960 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 2733 01:57:41,300 --> 01:57:39,030 you're listening to fade to black always 2734 01:57:44,150 --> 01:57:41,310 on the edge of the hottest alternative 2735 01:58:03,410 --> 01:57:44,160 talk chilly church with fade to black 2736 01:58:07,130 --> 01:58:03,420 stay GRA radio.com hurricanes 2737 01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:07,140 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 2738 01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:08,880 experienced a more than our fair share 2739 01:58:14,150 --> 01:58:11,280 this is Jimmy Church of fade to black 2740 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02:00:58,970 [Music] 2796 02:01:18,510 --> 02:01:16,350 all right welcome back fade to black 2797 02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:18,520 happy Hallows Eve everybody tomorrow 2798 02:01:24,510 --> 02:01:20,770 night's Halloween we've got the most 2799 02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:24,520 in-demand personality in the country 2800 02:01:31,020 --> 02:01:27,730 show with this tonight dart biz Dave 2801 02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,030 Schrader and you know you are booked 2802 02:01:36,300 --> 02:01:33,760 Halloween that that's your time isn't it 2803 02:01:38,070 --> 02:01:36,310 oh yeah this is my time to shine man I 2804 02:01:41,100 --> 02:01:38,080 love this time of year first of all the 2805 02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:41,110 weather I love it nice and cool I like 2806 02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:42,910 it kind of dark and early I like it 2807 02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:45,370 creepy I just have a great time and then 2808 02:01:49,260 --> 02:01:47,410 to do this and kind of get a chance to 2809 02:01:51,870 --> 02:01:49,270 talk about all the the frightening 2810 02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:51,880 aspects of what people are intrigued by 2811 02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:54,130 I just love it and we always open up and 2812 02:01:58,410 --> 02:01:56,080 I encourage your listeners as well jimmy 2813 02:02:00,410 --> 02:01:58,420 to not only check out our show but send 2814 02:02:03,060 --> 02:02:00,420 me your stories if you've had weird 2815 02:02:05,790 --> 02:02:03,070 paranormal encounters with black-eyed 2816 02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:05,800 kids or ghosts the demonic realm angels 2817 02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:07,690 you can email me Dave at darkness 2818 02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:09,730 radio.com we read those stories and 2819 02:02:13,110 --> 02:02:11,680 share them on Mondays and then we picked 2820 02:02:14,670 --> 02:02:13,120 some of our favorite stories and we do 2821 02:02:17,010 --> 02:02:14,680 something on Friday called theater of 2822 02:02:18,810 --> 02:02:17,020 the mind where we take these stories and 2823 02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:18,820 and I'll read them and Tim will put 2824 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:20,650 music and sound effects behind them and 2825 02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:22,570 we feature one story every Friday with 2826 02:02:27,090 --> 02:02:25,150 that so please email me your paranormal 2827 02:02:28,979 --> 02:02:27,100 encounters to Dave at darkness radio.com 2828 02:02:30,930 --> 02:02:28,989 and you can keep up with our show at 2829 02:02:33,150 --> 02:02:30,940 darkness radio.com and find ways to 2830 02:02:35,490 --> 02:02:33,160 listen to beyond the darkness I'm taking 2831 02:02:41,900 --> 02:02:35,500 notes we have two new show nights now 2832 02:02:44,459 --> 02:02:41,910 we're gonna do haunted mondays perfect 2833 02:02:46,979 --> 02:02:44,469 you know great artists steal right 2834 02:02:49,470 --> 02:02:46,989 that's what I've been told I mean we're 2835 02:02:51,780 --> 02:02:49,480 just we're just following us footsteps 2836 02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:51,790 of what art Bell began all those years 2837 02:02:58,050 --> 02:02:54,610 ago anyway right no doubt no doubt and 2838 02:03:00,090 --> 02:02:58,060 he got it from you know Billy Goodman 2839 02:03:03,630 --> 02:03:00,100 right that's right George Noory has 2840 02:03:06,959 --> 02:03:03,640 continued on the proud tradition of cool 2841 02:03:09,780 --> 02:03:06,969 stories and fringe news and conspiracy 2842 02:03:12,090 --> 02:03:09,790 and paranormal so it's cool that he sees 2843 02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:12,100 the importance of bringing people like 2844 02:03:16,530 --> 02:03:14,440 you and myself and Connie and Richard 2845 02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:16,540 Syrett and and George Knapp together and 2846 02:03:20,030 --> 02:03:18,160 share all of these different insights 2847 02:03:22,979 --> 02:03:20,040 and aspects from different personalities 2848 02:03:25,950 --> 02:03:22,989 and George and Lisa and Tom of course 2849 02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:25,960 are great at allowing us to to shine and 2850 02:03:29,070 --> 02:03:27,130 bring those moments with 2851 02:03:31,860 --> 02:03:29,080 you know what what I really enjoy and 2852 02:03:34,140 --> 02:03:31,870 then we got to move on to this Freddy 2853 02:03:36,300 --> 02:03:34,150 Krueger thing that's freaking me out but 2854 02:03:38,910 --> 02:03:36,310 it's you know this is you you touch upon 2855 02:03:42,630 --> 02:03:38,920 something that I don't think most of the 2856 02:03:46,500 --> 02:03:42,640 audience can appreciate or understand 2857 02:03:50,850 --> 02:03:46,510 and that is coast to coast is a family 2858 02:03:53,220 --> 02:03:50,860 but they really do allow us you know the 2859 02:03:55,230 --> 02:03:53,230 guest house to do our own thing that's 2860 02:03:59,070 --> 02:03:55,240 it yep that's why we are there 2861 02:04:00,750 --> 02:03:59,080 there is no restrictions I have never 2862 02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:00,760 been I'm sure it's the same for you as 2863 02:04:04,770 --> 02:04:02,170 it is for everybody I've never been told 2864 02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:04,780 who to book who not to book can't do 2865 02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:06,730 this you got to do this you have to say 2866 02:04:11,370 --> 02:04:09,730 this you've got to do that I show up at 2867 02:04:12,890 --> 02:04:11,380 the co studios you've been there you 2868 02:04:15,930 --> 02:04:12,900 know well you know what's up with that I 2869 02:04:19,950 --> 02:04:15,940 show up and I do the show and I leave 2870 02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:19,960 I'm by myself and and you know and I 2871 02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:25,090 can't it doesn't it doesn't if somebody 2872 02:04:31,220 --> 02:04:27,730 interrupted that flow your creativity is 2873 02:04:34,650 --> 02:04:31,230 gone right and and so it is absolute 2874 02:04:37,650 --> 02:04:34,660 creative freedom to do what we do best 2875 02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:37,660 and and you're absolutely right it's so 2876 02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:40,930 cool that that aspect of coast is is is 2877 02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:44,110 is what I enjoy the most I don't trip 2878 02:04:48,020 --> 02:04:45,910 you know there's no pressure I don't 2879 02:04:54,500 --> 02:04:48,030 trip alright there's nothing to trip on 2880 02:04:56,490 --> 02:04:54,510 people think it's some run government 2881 02:04:58,650 --> 02:04:56,500 organization over there where we are 2882 02:05:01,490 --> 02:04:58,660 robots and told what to do it is the 2883 02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:01,500 exact opposite we have too much freedom 2884 02:05:08,490 --> 02:05:05,520 maybe that's the problem right okay so 2885 02:05:12,690 --> 02:05:08,500 alright now that is a pretty 2886 02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:12,700 bone-chilling thought that Nightmare on 2887 02:05:16,830 --> 02:05:14,650 Elm Street is based on reality and based 2888 02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:16,840 on fact and and Craven got a hold of 2889 02:05:23,930 --> 02:05:20,770 that story the do you remember I don't 2890 02:05:28,580 --> 02:05:23,940 want to segue too far off of this the 2891 02:05:32,580 --> 02:05:28,590 the movie that came out about voodoo and 2892 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:32,590 and zombies and Serpent and the racer 2893 02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:35,410 pant and the rainbow right so I go and I 2894 02:05:40,219 --> 02:05:38,170 see that terrifies me right I'm 15 15 2895 02:05:42,199 --> 02:05:40,229 years old a seat in the theater 2896 02:05:43,790 --> 02:05:42,209 and we're walking out my best friend 2897 02:05:46,310 --> 02:05:43,800 Erik turns to me because you know man 2898 02:05:50,689 --> 02:05:46,320 that's based on the true story I was 2899 02:05:52,939 --> 02:05:50,699 like what it's not and then I find out 2900 02:05:55,279 --> 02:05:52,949 that of course that is true and zombies 2901 02:05:58,160 --> 02:05:55,289 are real and that's what's going on down 2902 02:06:01,310 --> 02:05:58,170 there in the Caribbean and it messed 2903 02:06:03,469 --> 02:06:01,320 with me I mean seriously messed with my 2904 02:06:05,359 --> 02:06:03,479 head just like right now with the 2905 02:06:08,509 --> 02:06:05,369 Nightmare on Elm Street okay so what was 2906 02:06:10,279 --> 02:06:08,519 what was the what was the guy's name all 2907 02:06:11,750 --> 02:06:10,289 right so here's here's what happened if 2908 02:06:13,850 --> 02:06:11,760 we did the black-eyed kids stories we 2909 02:06:14,930 --> 02:06:13,860 get an email from a listener who says I 2910 02:06:16,759 --> 02:06:14,940 you know I don't believe in the 2911 02:06:18,739 --> 02:06:16,769 paranormal I think this is all silly but 2912 02:06:21,219 --> 02:06:18,749 it's a fun show but with that said I had 2913 02:06:25,699 --> 02:06:21,229 an experience I'd like your input on and 2914 02:06:27,259 --> 02:06:25,709 he tells this story he was young and I 2915 02:06:30,049 --> 02:06:27,269 think he said he was like around 7 or 8 2916 02:06:33,049 --> 02:06:30,059 years old he was sleeping in bed and he 2917 02:06:37,250 --> 02:06:33,059 rolls over and they're laying in bed 2918 02:06:41,930 --> 02:06:37,260 next to him is this man and it's back is 2919 02:06:44,029 --> 02:06:41,940 to him and he's devoid of like skin it's 2920 02:06:47,229 --> 02:06:44,039 it's just like you like those models you 2921 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:47,239 see it says skinless man just bloody red 2922 02:06:55,279 --> 02:06:50,010 muscle ligatures and he could just see 2923 02:06:57,020 --> 02:06:55,289 it breathing laying there as he's laying 2924 02:07:01,069 --> 02:06:57,030 there behind it and he's absolutely 2925 02:07:04,549 --> 02:07:01,079 terrified he can't see its face but he 2926 02:07:07,339 --> 02:07:04,559 just knows this thing is smiling and he 2927 02:07:11,330 --> 02:07:07,349 finally gets the courage up rolls off 2928 02:07:13,339 --> 02:07:11,340 the bed and runs to his parents room and 2929 02:07:15,859 --> 02:07:13,349 he's gotten in trouble before for waking 2930 02:07:17,989 --> 02:07:15,869 up his parents and and bothering them so 2931 02:07:19,729 --> 02:07:17,999 he's sitting there debating do I go in 2932 02:07:21,620 --> 02:07:19,739 and wake him up I don't know what to do 2933 02:07:23,899 --> 02:07:21,630 I'm afraid maybe it was a bad dream 2934 02:07:25,219 --> 02:07:23,909 maybe I just imagined that and he slowly 2935 02:07:27,620 --> 02:07:25,229 starts to make his way back down the 2936 02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:27,630 hall and he hears his bed creak and 2937 02:07:32,660 --> 02:07:30,090 something hits the floor boom and starts 2938 02:07:34,129 --> 02:07:32,670 to roll across the floor he turns tail 2939 02:07:36,830 --> 02:07:34,139 runs back in and gets in bed with his 2940 02:07:39,259 --> 02:07:36,840 parents he said now I've never had an 2941 02:07:41,479 --> 02:07:39,269 experience like that Dave ever since 2942 02:07:44,899 --> 02:07:41,489 I've never had anything like that before 2943 02:07:47,870 --> 02:07:44,909 but has anybody else heard of this so we 2944 02:07:50,330 --> 02:07:47,880 threw it out to our audience and then we 2945 02:07:52,339 --> 02:07:50,340 started getting the letters and one of 2946 02:07:54,020 --> 02:07:52,349 the first letters we got and we just 2947 02:07:58,340 --> 02:07:54,030 featured this on a theater of the mind 2948 02:08:00,260 --> 02:07:58,350 a couple weeks ago there was boys and I 2949 02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:00,270 have this weird theory about bunk beds a 2950 02:08:04,610 --> 02:08:02,130 lot of paranormal stories and children's 2951 02:08:06,170 --> 02:08:04,620 lives surround bunk beds so I think that 2952 02:08:10,940 --> 02:08:06,180 might be some kind of weird portal that 2953 02:08:12,340 --> 02:08:10,950 IKEA has not told us about hmm but his 2954 02:08:14,420 --> 02:08:12,350 little brother slept on the bottom bunk 2955 02:08:18,170 --> 02:08:14,430 he slept on the top bunk 2956 02:08:19,850 --> 02:08:18,180 and he would you know on nights when his 2957 02:08:21,170 --> 02:08:19,860 little brother would be afraid he'd feel 2958 02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:21,180 his brother climb up there if he wasn't 2959 02:08:23,930 --> 02:08:22,530 feeling good or he was afraid he'd climb 2960 02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:23,940 up and they would sleep together and 2961 02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:25,410 that was just their family is very close 2962 02:08:31,010 --> 02:08:29,250 that way he's sleeping he's faced the 2963 02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:31,020 wall and he starts to feel the bedrock 2964 02:08:35,870 --> 02:08:32,960 and something's climbing up the ladder 2965 02:08:37,670 --> 02:08:35,880 gets up feels the blankets lifted and 2966 02:08:39,980 --> 02:08:37,680 flop so he figures it's his little 2967 02:08:41,180 --> 02:08:39,990 brother and he rolls over to face his 2968 02:08:43,700 --> 02:08:41,190 little brother to find out what's wrong 2969 02:08:48,100 --> 02:08:43,710 and there is this man in his bed facing 2970 02:08:50,690 --> 02:08:48,110 him this huge smile on his face 2971 02:08:53,270 --> 02:08:50,700 skinned looks like he's been skinned 2972 02:08:55,370 --> 02:08:53,280 mm-hmm so it's just this blood-red face 2973 02:08:57,290 --> 02:08:55,380 and in shoulders and there's no he's 2974 02:08:59,420 --> 02:08:57,300 again no clothing has been mentioned on 2975 02:09:01,940 --> 02:08:59,430 this character because they can see the 2976 02:09:04,430 --> 02:09:01,950 shoulders the back the chest and he's 2977 02:09:07,250 --> 02:09:04,440 just facing this thing and it doesn't 2978 02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:07,260 speak it just lays there and stares at 2979 02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:11,130 him and his heart is racing but he's 2980 02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:14,370 completely frozen in terror doesn't know 2981 02:09:20,620 --> 02:09:17,490 what to do and ends up laying there for 2982 02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:20,630 hours face-to-face with this thing 2983 02:09:26,210 --> 02:09:23,970 unable to do anything to better his 2984 02:09:27,710 --> 02:09:26,220 situation and it wasn't until the 2985 02:09:30,290 --> 02:09:27,720 morning light started to come through 2986 02:09:32,300 --> 02:09:30,300 the window that he finally just said 2987 02:09:35,330 --> 02:09:32,310 that's it and closed his eyes and rolled 2988 02:09:37,730 --> 02:09:35,340 away from it and he felt the blankets 2989 02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:37,740 drop behind him and then he heard the 2990 02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:46,650 closet door shut and lawn whoa all right 2991 02:09:49,310 --> 02:09:48,000 well I start hearing stories like this 2992 02:09:50,630 --> 02:09:49,320 Jimmy and we're getting freakier and 2993 02:09:52,250 --> 02:09:50,640 freakier as they're going along people 2994 02:09:53,780 --> 02:09:52,260 sharing these creepy stories yeah go 2995 02:09:58,760 --> 02:09:53,790 ahead you have a question no I'm just 2996 02:10:00,770 --> 02:09:58,770 going though whoa one of the picture in 2997 02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:00,780 the whole thing and and not only that 2998 02:10:06,990 --> 02:10:04,320 this is all of us I don't think there's 2999 02:10:09,150 --> 02:10:07,000 any kid well there may be 3000 02:10:11,790 --> 02:10:09,160 of course but we all had bunk beds or we 3001 02:10:14,670 --> 02:10:11,800 had friends that had bunk beds so it's 3002 02:10:17,220 --> 02:10:14,680 very easy to paint this picture it's oh 3003 02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:17,230 it is and you can see it and then it was 3004 02:10:20,850 --> 02:10:18,970 years later he finally broke down and 3005 02:10:22,410 --> 02:10:20,860 told his brother what he saw and his 3006 02:10:24,690 --> 02:10:22,420 brother said well did you ever wonder 3007 02:10:27,090 --> 02:10:24,700 why I always insisted on you closing the 3008 02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:27,100 closet door oh man and he said no why 3009 02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:28,570 and he goes because I would see it 3010 02:10:33,180 --> 02:10:31,090 standing in the closet and he would just 3011 02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:33,190 see the the side of the face that was 3012 02:10:37,470 --> 02:10:35,290 outside of the door the other side would 3013 02:10:39,180 --> 02:10:37,480 be covered by the the door itself but 3014 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:39,190 this being would just stand in the 3015 02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:40,810 closet door and stare at them 3016 02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:42,970 whoa and the little brother used to see 3017 02:10:46,500 --> 02:10:44,110 it all the time that's why he would 3018 02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:46,510 climb up into the top bunk so all of a 3019 02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:48,310 sudden he's got this not only his story 3020 02:10:52,170 --> 02:10:50,560 but years later he tells his brother and 3021 02:10:53,250 --> 02:10:52,180 his brother says I Denver won that's a 3022 02:10:55,110 --> 02:10:53,260 me because I thought you'd think I was 3023 02:10:57,810 --> 02:10:55,120 crazy ah but they both had this 3024 02:10:59,850 --> 02:10:57,820 experience I even had a more humorous 3025 02:11:03,000 --> 02:10:59,860 but still equally terrifying version of 3026 02:11:04,710 --> 02:11:03,010 it a guy and his girlfriend come back 3027 02:11:09,150 --> 02:11:04,720 it's late night they've had some wine 3028 02:11:11,220 --> 02:11:09,160 they're cuddling on the couch and things 3029 02:11:13,770 --> 02:11:11,230 progresses things do when you've been 3030 02:11:16,650 --> 02:11:13,780 having a good night out and they are in 3031 02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:16,660 the throes of passion and at one point 3032 02:11:22,530 --> 02:11:20,650 he dips his head down lowers his 3033 02:11:24,660 --> 02:11:22,540 shoulder and she gets a clear view over 3034 02:11:27,630 --> 02:11:24,670 his shoulder and standing at the end of 3035 02:11:31,890 --> 02:11:27,640 the couch is this blood red man standing 3036 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:31,900 there staring at her and she lets out 3037 02:11:37,020 --> 02:11:35,050 with a scream well he thought he was 3038 02:11:39,090 --> 02:11:37,030 doing something pretty cool but had no 3039 02:11:40,770 --> 02:11:39,100 clue what was going on behind him where 3040 02:11:43,500 --> 02:11:40,780 I is that this being was standing there 3041 02:11:45,810 --> 02:11:43,510 she starts screaming and hitting him he 3042 02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:45,820 turns around there's nothing there he 3043 02:11:51,630 --> 02:11:48,490 gets off of her she looks and there's 3044 02:11:54,450 --> 02:11:51,640 nobody in the room but she swears she 3045 02:11:56,820 --> 02:11:54,460 saw this blood red skinned man standing 3046 02:12:00,150 --> 02:11:56,830 there at the end of the couch watching 3047 02:12:02,370 --> 02:12:00,160 them so this is one of those cases again 3048 02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:02,380 where it's just that's weird it's eerie 3049 02:12:06,180 --> 02:12:04,570 it's freaky so I start doing some 3050 02:12:09,060 --> 02:12:06,190 googling and I start doing some research 3051 02:12:12,270 --> 02:12:09,070 and looking for is there any historic 3052 02:12:13,700 --> 02:12:12,280 principle or story that this could tie 3053 02:12:15,500 --> 02:12:13,710 to 3054 02:12:17,209 --> 02:12:15,510 and this is where it gets weird Jimmy 3055 02:12:19,670 --> 02:12:17,219 because again these people don't know 3056 02:12:21,110 --> 02:12:19,680 these histories these people are telling 3057 02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:21,120 me stories that happened to them in the 3058 02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:25,770 80's 90's 2000s but as I'm digging 3059 02:12:30,530 --> 02:12:28,110 through I start uncovering stories from 3060 02:12:34,010 --> 02:12:30,540 over in England and there's this thing 3061 02:12:36,620 --> 02:12:34,020 they call the bloody bones man you told 3062 02:12:37,820 --> 02:12:36,630 the story earlier about was it your 3063 02:12:39,530 --> 02:12:37,830 cousin that would sleep in the bed and 3064 02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:39,540 say and he would say do not go in this 3065 02:12:43,370 --> 02:12:42,090 little doorway house my Uncle Bill your 3066 02:12:47,110 --> 02:12:43,380 Uncle Bill that sort of was your Uncle 3067 02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:47,120 Bill listen to this this is part of the 3068 02:12:52,670 --> 02:12:49,050 folklore from England 3069 02:12:56,030 --> 02:12:52,680 the bloody bones man it lives in a dark 3070 02:12:57,620 --> 02:12:56,040 closet usually under the stairs if you 3071 02:13:00,530 --> 02:12:57,630 were heroic enough to peep through a 3072 02:13:04,220 --> 02:13:00,540 crack you would get a glimpse of this 3073 02:13:07,150 --> 02:13:04,230 dreadful crouching creature with blood 3074 02:13:10,370 --> 02:13:07,160 running down his face and body seated 3075 02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:10,380 waiting on a pile of raw bones that had 3076 02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:12,930 belonged to children who told lies or 3077 02:13:19,820 --> 02:13:17,040 spoke bad words so now there's a 3078 02:13:25,370 --> 02:13:19,830 historic precedent for this blood-red 3079 02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:25,380 creature and this all is kind of cool 3080 02:13:30,979 --> 02:13:28,320 because we can tie it back in and then 3081 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:30,989 launch into a whole new being we can tie 3082 02:13:34,870 --> 02:13:32,370 this back in again here you've got this 3083 02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:34,880 Freddy Krueger like skinned creature 3084 02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:37,530 there's no mention of Wes Craven and 3085 02:13:40,700 --> 02:13:39,210 unfortunately we lost him now so we 3086 02:13:43,700 --> 02:13:40,710 can't ever follow up with him on this 3087 02:13:45,470 --> 02:13:43,710 but he gained a lot of these thoughts 3088 02:13:48,830 --> 02:13:45,480 from things that were part of real 3089 02:13:50,570 --> 02:13:48,840 history and culture and I often wonder 3090 02:13:52,850 --> 02:13:50,580 if he was aware of raw had the bloody 3091 02:13:55,310 --> 02:13:52,860 bones man and if that's what he based 3092 02:13:57,590 --> 02:13:55,320 Freddy Krueger on this nightmarish 3093 02:14:01,640 --> 02:13:57,600 creature that was skinned or burned and 3094 02:14:02,870 --> 02:14:01,650 just looked horrific and it takes on its 3095 02:14:05,060 --> 02:14:02,880 own life one of the most fascinating 3096 02:14:07,490 --> 02:14:05,070 movies in the nightmare and um Street 3097 02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:07,500 run to me was the final one Wes Craven 3098 02:14:12,380 --> 02:14:09,690 Wes Craven's final nightmare I think or 3099 02:14:16,250 --> 02:14:12,390 new nightmare right it was the very last 3100 02:14:17,510 --> 02:14:16,260 movie that he did and the concept I 3101 02:14:20,450 --> 02:14:17,520 thought was awesome 3102 02:14:24,740 --> 02:14:20,460 it's years after the original series is 3103 02:14:26,669 --> 02:14:24,750 ended and this demonic thing is haunting 3104 02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:26,679 the original cast member 3105 02:14:33,089 --> 02:14:30,130 of The Nightmare on Elm Street movie so 3106 02:14:35,359 --> 02:14:33,099 it's a movie within a movie and Heather 3107 02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:35,369 Langenkamp who was in the original movie 3108 02:14:39,629 --> 02:14:38,079 Nancy she starts connecting with all of 3109 02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:39,639 the other actors and stars of the movie 3110 02:14:45,839 --> 02:14:42,400 and even Wes Craven himself she goes 3111 02:14:48,989 --> 02:14:45,849 there and he's been typing this story as 3112 02:14:51,089 --> 02:14:48,999 it's unfolding in her real life so it's 3113 02:14:53,279 --> 02:14:51,099 this great kind of what came first is it 3114 02:14:55,229 --> 02:14:53,289 the concept and the whole idea was that 3115 02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:55,239 this construct of Freddy Krueger 3116 02:15:00,929 --> 02:14:58,719 attracted an ancient demon and it liked 3117 02:15:04,109 --> 02:15:00,939 the power and the fear that the 3118 02:15:06,569 --> 02:15:04,119 character Freddy Krueger supplied and 3119 02:15:09,660 --> 02:15:06,579 how people were terrified by it so it 3120 02:15:11,819 --> 02:15:09,670 became one with this fictional character 3121 02:15:15,029 --> 02:15:11,829 of Freddy Krueger it took ownership of 3122 02:15:16,949 --> 02:15:15,039 that imagination and when people stopped 3123 02:15:19,229 --> 02:15:16,959 paying attention to it and stopped going 3124 02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:19,239 to the movies it became angry 3125 02:15:23,640 --> 02:15:21,550 so it started fighting its way back out 3126 02:15:25,529 --> 02:15:23,650 going after the people who brought it 3127 02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:25,539 attention to begin with so I thought 3128 02:15:29,219 --> 02:15:27,130 well that's just a great twist what a 3129 02:15:31,290 --> 02:15:29,229 cool story so if you haven't seen it 3130 02:15:33,509 --> 02:15:31,300 check it out it's it's one of the best 3131 02:15:36,929 --> 02:15:33,519 in the the lot Freddy Krueger is not 3132 02:15:38,489 --> 02:15:36,939 this fun quipping dark guy it's a much 3133 02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:38,499 creepier movie much like the very first 3134 02:15:42,029 --> 02:15:40,329 Nightmare on Elm Street movie so if you 3135 02:15:43,500 --> 02:15:42,039 have ever see the original and the very 3136 02:15:45,419 --> 02:15:43,510 final one and you get really kind of a 3137 02:15:48,179 --> 02:15:45,429 great book end of really good 3138 02:15:50,819 --> 02:15:48,189 psychological creepy movie and they feel 3139 02:15:53,310 --> 02:15:50,829 like a direct sequel to one another so 3140 02:15:55,979 --> 02:15:53,320 yeah go ahead go ahead I'm not gonna say 3141 02:15:58,529 --> 02:15:55,989 with that said then it launches us into 3142 02:16:00,870 --> 02:15:58,539 a new phenomena that started a few years 3143 02:16:02,759 --> 02:16:00,880 ago and you would ask me at the 3144 02:16:04,529 --> 02:16:02,769 beginning of the show while we were off 3145 02:16:08,429 --> 02:16:04,539 air you said yeah let's talk about 3146 02:16:10,469 --> 02:16:08,439 Slender Man and this is a really cool 3147 02:16:12,029 --> 02:16:10,479 article of history as well that we can 3148 02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:12,039 start to chat about with the Slender Man 3149 02:16:15,299 --> 02:16:13,599 now did you I don't want to interrupt 3150 02:16:16,290 --> 02:16:15,309 you this is your show but did you have 3151 02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:16,300 something you wanted to add or a 3152 02:16:21,479 --> 02:16:17,530 different direction you wanted me to go 3153 02:16:26,009 --> 02:16:21,489 in my point is Wes Craven Lynch is 3154 02:16:28,859 --> 02:16:26,019 really good at this too as well is able 3155 02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:28,869 to get the imagination the brain the 3156 02:16:35,509 --> 02:16:32,080 dream sequence the the things that scare 3157 02:16:39,179 --> 02:16:35,519 us the most right and and turn it into 3158 02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:39,189 film with the story that we relate to so 3159 02:16:42,270 --> 02:16:40,090 much that 3160 02:16:44,910 --> 02:16:42,280 ends up scaring the crap out of us the 3161 02:16:47,070 --> 02:16:44,920 fact that it's based on reality Lynch 3162 02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:47,080 you know those were his dreams those are 3163 02:16:52,410 --> 02:16:49,570 his dreams right and he's able to do 3164 02:16:55,049 --> 02:16:52,420 that and capture it and that's that's 3165 02:16:57,410 --> 02:16:55,059 why it's done so well Craven again based 3166 02:17:00,660 --> 02:16:57,420 on reality okay let's let's go back all 3167 02:17:03,540 --> 02:17:00,670 right so there's this really interesting 3168 02:17:05,759 --> 02:17:03,550 part of history now that has come in the 3169 02:17:09,990 --> 02:17:05,769 in the world of horror called Slenderman 3170 02:17:12,839 --> 02:17:10,000 and we know this is a recent creation 3171 02:17:15,209 --> 02:17:12,849 was part of an Internet phenom Moses 3172 02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:15,219 contest to create these paranormal 3173 02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:18,370 creatures and make pretend Photoshop 3174 02:17:21,870 --> 02:17:20,050 photos everything was basically how do 3175 02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:21,880 you trick a paranormal investigator and 3176 02:17:27,299 --> 02:17:23,889 and then give this creature a backstory 3177 02:17:30,780 --> 02:17:27,309 so this guy created the Slenderman 3178 02:17:33,389 --> 02:17:30,790 Slenderman is this tall gangly creature 3179 02:17:36,810 --> 02:17:33,399 that wears a suit black tie almost like 3180 02:17:39,389 --> 02:17:36,820 the men in black but he has no face he's 3181 02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:39,399 faceless and in some instances he has 3182 02:17:44,310 --> 02:17:41,710 the spider-like legs that will fold out 3183 02:17:46,349 --> 02:17:44,320 from his back he's very tall and spindly 3184 02:17:49,620 --> 02:17:46,359 and he's often seen in the presence of 3185 02:17:51,629 --> 02:17:49,630 children so there's this great story I 3186 02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:51,639 mean you're putting us right in the the 3187 02:17:57,060 --> 02:17:54,130 brain you know the the base brain of all 3188 02:17:58,770 --> 02:17:57,070 of us you're endangering children you've 3189 02:18:00,959 --> 02:17:58,780 got this creature that's faceless you 3190 02:18:02,730 --> 02:18:00,969 can't even imagine what it looks like an 3191 02:18:04,110 --> 02:18:02,740 end the idea that it has no face is more 3192 02:18:06,570 --> 02:18:04,120 terrifying than even like a Freddy 3193 02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:06,580 Krueger face it's just this blank 3194 02:18:13,910 --> 02:18:11,170 expression 'less mound of clay and it's 3195 02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:13,920 dressed impeccably and very creepy and 3196 02:18:21,690 --> 02:18:17,410 it has actually become kind of this 3197 02:18:23,459 --> 02:18:21,700 weird living thing because a few years 3198 02:18:26,370 --> 02:18:23,469 ago I think was now cash going on almost 3199 02:18:30,330 --> 02:18:26,380 three or four years there were a couple 3200 02:18:32,730 --> 02:18:30,340 of young girls in Wisconsin who were 3201 02:18:36,540 --> 02:18:32,740 involved in an interest with these 3202 02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:36,550 supernatural beings and two of them got 3203 02:18:40,889 --> 02:18:39,280 together and decided that they were 3204 02:18:43,530 --> 02:18:40,899 going to sacrifice one of their good 3205 02:18:44,009 --> 02:18:43,540 friends they they set this whole plan in 3206 02:18:46,530 --> 02:18:44,019 motion 3207 02:18:50,940 --> 02:18:46,540 and the reason they were gonna sacrifice 3208 02:18:53,129 --> 02:18:50,950 her was to appease Slenderman and that 3209 02:18:53,970 --> 02:18:53,139 if they killed their friend in brutal 3210 02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:53,980 manner he would 3211 02:18:58,710 --> 02:18:55,810 open up his kingdom that was hidden in 3212 02:19:01,710 --> 02:18:58,720 the forest near their home and this is 3213 02:19:04,020 --> 02:19:01,720 true this this is beyond fact or fiction 3214 02:19:05,850 --> 02:19:04,030 this is truth you can go read about this 3215 02:19:09,390 --> 02:19:05,860 they're still dealing with the case now 3216 02:19:11,161 --> 02:19:09,400 that's right these two little girls go 3217 02:19:12,990 --> 02:19:11,171 for a walk with their friend knock her 3218 02:19:16,320 --> 02:19:13,000 down and brutally stabbed her repeatedly 3219 02:19:17,670 --> 02:19:16,330 I mean it's like some made like 16 20 3220 02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:17,680 times something like that and then they 3221 02:19:21,411 --> 02:19:18,850 leave her there to die 3222 02:19:24,930 --> 02:19:21,421 this little girl by all miracles 3223 02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:24,940 survived crawled out got help and was 3224 02:19:30,030 --> 02:19:27,760 saved the two little girls were quickly 3225 02:19:32,550 --> 02:19:30,040 arrested and the story was fleshed out 3226 02:19:34,831 --> 02:19:32,560 and you hear just the the veracity of 3227 02:19:36,810 --> 02:19:34,841 this attack and what went on and that 3228 02:19:39,500 --> 02:19:36,820 they were so cognizant of the fact that 3229 02:19:43,411 --> 02:19:39,510 well we wanted to get into slender Ben's 3230 02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,421 Kingdom we wanted to be accepted so it's 3231 02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:45,280 one thing to think there's one nut job 3232 02:19:48,510 --> 02:19:47,290 out there that's broken but when you 3233 02:19:50,341 --> 02:19:48,520 have two or three they're kind of 3234 02:19:52,470 --> 02:19:50,351 working in conjunction it gets really 3235 02:19:54,810 --> 02:19:52,480 chilling that becomes even scarier than 3236 02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:54,820 the paranormal stories but yet that 3237 02:19:58,831 --> 02:19:56,080 doesn't end there 3238 02:20:00,511 --> 02:19:58,841 there was very shortly after that a man 3239 02:20:02,430 --> 02:20:00,521 that tried to kill his mother and burn 3240 02:20:05,940 --> 02:20:02,440 the house down in order to gain favor 3241 02:20:08,791 --> 02:20:05,950 with the Slenderman and then you had 3242 02:20:11,131 --> 02:20:08,801 other near murders occur in the name of 3243 02:20:12,841 --> 02:20:11,141 Slenderman all unassociated all 3244 02:20:14,461 --> 02:20:12,851 unfamiliar with the other ones that are 3245 02:20:18,690 --> 02:20:14,471 taking place and you start to wonder 3246 02:20:22,951 --> 02:20:18,700 what is this how can an recent internet 3247 02:20:25,831 --> 02:20:22,961 creature meme become so real to people 3248 02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:25,841 and Tim and I started digging into this 3249 02:20:27,961 --> 02:20:27,610 for our show because we were fascinated 3250 02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:27,971 by it 3251 02:20:33,930 --> 02:20:30,160 and you know what I found out Jimmy much 3252 02:20:37,621 --> 02:20:33,940 like the Freddy Krueger demon it always 3253 02:20:40,591 --> 02:20:37,631 existed there are versions of Slenderman 3254 02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:40,601 that show up in many different cultures 3255 02:20:47,671 --> 02:20:44,370 and religions and date back centuries 3256 02:20:50,421 --> 02:20:47,681 but from time to time they disappear 3257 02:20:53,161 --> 02:20:50,431 from history they're forgotten about and 3258 02:20:55,081 --> 02:20:53,171 then somebody has this bright idea and 3259 02:20:56,610 --> 02:20:55,091 creates this being and puts it out on 3260 02:20:58,831 --> 02:20:56,620 the internet now the fastest way to 3261 02:21:01,201 --> 02:20:58,841 share things from one side of the globe 3262 02:21:02,610 --> 02:21:01,211 to the other and awakens this global 3263 02:21:04,310 --> 02:21:02,620 consciousness that you talked about at 3264 02:21:07,530 --> 02:21:04,320 the beginning of the show that's right I 3265 02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:07,540 went and read just like you intended I 3266 02:21:13,261 --> 02:21:09,370 I started jumping into folklore and 3267 02:21:15,810 --> 02:21:13,271 peeling up some of these stories that go 3268 02:21:18,530 --> 02:21:15,820 back in Europe you know hundreds and 3269 02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:18,540 hundreds of years of you know the black 3270 02:21:25,490 --> 02:21:22,170 dressed suit guy without a face 3271 02:21:28,650 --> 02:21:25,500 sometimes with a hat right a top hat 3272 02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:28,660 showing up in people's homes and houses 3273 02:21:34,650 --> 02:21:31,570 looking in the window you know seen on 3274 02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:34,660 the street the same thing bone thin 3275 02:21:41,970 --> 02:21:37,680 stick figure type thing without a face 3276 02:21:45,210 --> 02:21:41,980 and it it it it goes back so far and not 3277 02:21:47,011 --> 02:21:45,220 not so much with the hive mind because 3278 02:21:48,690 --> 02:21:47,021 that's there's that part too certainly 3279 02:21:50,130 --> 02:21:48,700 with the Internet and the power of the 3280 02:21:52,740 --> 02:21:50,140 brain and the power of the mind to 3281 02:21:59,000 --> 02:21:52,750 manifest these but it makes you wonder 3282 02:22:01,050 --> 02:21:59,010 if this isn't rooted in a reality of 3283 02:22:02,430 --> 02:22:01,060 something that's been going on for a 3284 02:22:06,261 --> 02:22:02,440 long time could it be interdimensional 3285 02:22:09,630 --> 02:22:06,271 you know could it be a parallel world 3286 02:22:13,261 --> 02:22:09,640 situation I don't know but the stories 3287 02:22:15,060 --> 02:22:13,271 go back a long long way oh I wanted to 3288 02:22:17,370 --> 02:22:15,070 touch upon I wanna stay on Slender Man 3289 02:22:19,530 --> 02:22:17,380 we have to stand Slenderman right and 3290 02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:19,540 I've got two other different varieties 3291 02:22:23,250 --> 02:22:22,090 of them one of the stories I know well 3292 02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:23,260 two of them are from people that I 3293 02:22:26,520 --> 02:22:25,090 personally know and I'll share that with 3294 02:22:30,300 --> 02:22:26,530 in a few moments but what did you want 3295 02:22:34,680 --> 02:22:30,310 to bring up the the video game Grand 3296 02:22:36,960 --> 02:22:34,690 Theft Auto okay Slender Man made its way 3297 02:22:39,540 --> 02:22:36,970 into Grand Theft Auto did you know that 3298 02:22:41,430 --> 02:22:39,550 yes slender man's made his way into a 3299 02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:41,440 few different video games and and 3300 02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:43,600 programs because the programmers have 3301 02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:46,510 been so fascinated by it and have done 3302 02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:47,410 it and then there's a game called 3303 02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:50,410 slender which from a lot of people that 3304 02:22:54,180 --> 02:22:52,450 I know that it played it said it gets 3305 02:22:55,890 --> 02:22:54,190 very addictive and you get really 3306 02:22:57,960 --> 02:22:55,900 freaked out playing this game it's a 3307 02:22:59,910 --> 02:22:57,970 handheld video game for your phone and 3308 02:23:02,700 --> 02:22:59,920 it totally freaks people out and 3309 02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:02,710 unnerves them can you get it for iOS 3310 02:23:08,820 --> 02:23:05,650 I don't you'd have to look it up I'm not 3311 02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:08,830 I'm not a gamer it's been driving my 3312 02:23:14,820 --> 02:23:10,690 ColecoVision was the last big game 3313 02:23:17,130 --> 02:23:14,830 system I had it was Eid pong and Atari 3314 02:23:18,921 --> 02:23:17,140 2600 left to ColecoVision and then I was 3315 02:23:21,140 --> 02:23:18,931 out of my price range oh man 3316 02:23:23,751 --> 02:23:21,150 I can only see Twitter lighting up right 3317 02:23:25,251 --> 02:23:23,761 now well in in Grand Theft Auto I think 3318 02:23:28,251 --> 02:23:25,261 it was san andreas or you know one of 3319 02:23:30,801 --> 02:23:28,261 the grand theft auto 5 or whatever you 3320 02:23:33,890 --> 02:23:30,811 drove you have to drive out to this 3321 02:23:37,430 --> 02:23:33,900 cabin out in the woods and get out of 3322 02:23:39,861 --> 02:23:37,440 your car walk up to the cabin and go 3323 02:23:42,531 --> 02:23:39,871 inside of it and and hang out there for 3324 02:23:45,171 --> 02:23:42,541 a couple of minutes and then off out of 3325 02:23:47,901 --> 02:23:45,181 one of the windows you could see in the 3326 02:23:49,970 --> 02:23:47,911 distance a little tiny Slenderman you 3327 02:23:53,631 --> 02:23:49,980 know this figure walking towards you and 3328 02:23:56,421 --> 02:23:53,641 from that point on in the game you can't 3329 02:23:59,091 --> 02:23:56,431 get rid of this guy he's following he's 3330 02:24:02,151 --> 02:23:59,101 chasing you and following you no matter 3331 02:24:04,551 --> 02:24:02,161 what it's it's so creepy and it's 3332 02:24:06,711 --> 02:24:04,561 Slenderman it is and because it's 3333 02:24:10,041 --> 02:24:06,721 computer generated right animation it's 3334 02:24:12,140 --> 02:24:10,051 exactly like the Slenderman memes can't 3335 02:24:13,911 --> 02:24:12,150 get any creepier than that alright and 3336 02:24:16,371 --> 02:24:13,921 if you if your listeners go they can 3337 02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:16,381 google Slender on on YouTube go look up 3338 02:24:21,801 --> 02:24:19,200 Slender Man Easter eggs in video games 3339 02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:21,811 or TV shows and it's about a five and a 3340 02:24:27,261 --> 02:24:24,450 half minute video it's already got 3341 02:24:30,140 --> 02:24:27,271 overall a half million different it's 3342 02:24:32,511 --> 02:24:30,150 but Slenderman shows up in plants vs. 3343 02:24:37,220 --> 02:24:32,521 zombies I think he shows up in one of 3344 02:24:38,810 --> 02:24:37,230 the oh gosh what are those war games 3345 02:24:42,890 --> 02:24:38,820 that are so popular my mind is blank 3346 02:24:44,690 --> 02:24:42,900 right now and low on erm yeah games like 3347 02:24:47,331 --> 02:24:44,700 that right he shows up in but if you go 3348 02:24:49,011 --> 02:24:47,341 look Slenderman Easter eggs in video 3349 02:24:51,531 --> 02:24:49,021 games or TV shows and I'll send you the 3350 02:24:53,331 --> 02:24:51,541 link to it Jimmy I've got it and if you 3351 02:24:55,761 --> 02:24:53,341 want to post it on on your site so that 3352 02:24:57,651 --> 02:24:55,771 your followers can can check that out 3353 02:25:00,020 --> 02:24:57,661 it's it's creepy but it gives you an 3354 02:25:01,850 --> 02:25:00,030 idea of just how deeply rooted these 3355 02:25:04,781 --> 02:25:01,860 characters get and how they have become 3356 02:25:07,970 --> 02:25:04,791 part of a kind of a whole new subculture 3357 02:25:10,401 --> 02:25:07,980 alright let's let's get to we have a 3358 02:25:12,171 --> 02:25:10,411 three and a half minutes so let's do the 3359 02:25:14,480 --> 02:25:12,181 first story then we'll do the second one 3360 02:25:16,131 --> 02:25:14,490 on the back half of the break sure now 3361 02:25:17,661 --> 02:25:16,141 the first time I'd heard of a character 3362 02:25:19,850 --> 02:25:17,671 like this was long before was given a 3363 02:25:22,371 --> 02:25:19,860 name and this came to us on one of my 3364 02:25:25,190 --> 02:25:22,381 very first episodes twelve years ago my 3365 02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:25,200 ex-wife's friend Megan had contacted me 3366 02:25:28,881 --> 02:25:27,450 to tell me that she and her husband were 3367 02:25:30,621 --> 02:25:28,891 on a way to a party and they were 3368 02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:30,631 driving here in rural Minnesota and 3369 02:25:36,390 --> 02:25:32,650 they'd come to a tea section 3370 02:25:39,511 --> 02:25:36,400 in the road and this car comes cruising 3371 02:25:41,761 --> 02:25:39,521 very slowly through the intersection and 3372 02:25:43,051 --> 02:25:41,771 they're sitting at the stoplight waiting 3373 02:25:46,051 --> 02:25:43,061 for this car to come through and there's 3374 02:25:48,091 --> 02:25:46,061 this driver and he's got hands on the 3375 02:25:50,881 --> 02:25:48,101 wheels but as he gets in front of their 3376 02:25:53,761 --> 02:25:50,891 car he slowly turns to face them and 3377 02:25:57,091 --> 02:25:53,771 they said he looked at them and had 3378 02:25:59,160 --> 02:25:57,101 absolutely no face it was like just a 3379 02:26:02,280 --> 02:25:59,170 stretched piece of skin going down over 3380 02:26:04,230 --> 02:26:02,290 his face and they both were absolutely 3381 02:26:07,470 --> 02:26:04,240 terrified by what they just saw the car 3382 02:26:10,110 --> 02:26:07,480 cruises by they're like what was that 3383 02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:10,120 I don't know that was we headed there 3384 02:26:13,560 --> 02:26:11,530 had to be a reflection or something 3385 02:26:16,740 --> 02:26:13,570 there's we had to be seeing that wrong 3386 02:26:19,261 --> 02:26:16,750 they go later that night they're driving 3387 02:26:20,730 --> 02:26:19,271 back as they get to that t intersection 3388 02:26:23,070 --> 02:26:20,740 a truck comes barreling through the 3389 02:26:25,740 --> 02:26:23,080 intersection and slams into them damn 3390 02:26:28,230 --> 02:26:25,750 near killing them they were both really 3391 02:26:29,700 --> 02:26:28,240 messed up and destroyed the car but it 3392 02:26:31,801 --> 02:26:29,710 was in that exact same intersection 3393 02:26:33,751 --> 02:26:31,811 going in the exact same direction that 3394 02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:33,761 they had seen this beast in earlier and 3395 02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:36,610 it struck their car so was it a 3396 02:26:42,600 --> 02:26:39,610 harbinger was it a warning this creature 3397 02:26:46,770 --> 02:26:42,610 and what they had seen so that was the 3398 02:26:49,461 --> 02:26:46,780 first iteration of this faceless creepy 3399 02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:49,471 creature that I'd heard of and then I 3400 02:26:54,541 --> 02:26:52,000 was told of another one that took place 3401 02:26:56,461 --> 02:26:54,551 here in Minnesota and that one again has 3402 02:26:58,410 --> 02:26:56,471 a very weird feel to it in a very 3403 02:27:00,660 --> 02:26:58,420 strange vibe slightly off from the other 3404 02:27:02,461 --> 02:27:00,670 but nonetheless chilling so that's why I 3405 02:27:07,881 --> 02:27:02,471 love these kind of stories Jimmy is the 3406 02:27:11,220 --> 02:27:07,891 fact that there is all of this mind and 3407 02:27:13,410 --> 02:27:11,230 imagination and creativity of our own 3408 02:27:15,511 --> 02:27:13,420 world and our brains and this giant 3409 02:27:17,490 --> 02:27:15,521 Akashic records that we all enter into 3410 02:27:19,591 --> 02:27:17,500 and it does start to wonder that if 3411 02:27:20,640 --> 02:27:19,601 enough people hear about things or 3412 02:27:22,551 --> 02:27:20,650 enough people start to have an 3413 02:27:25,410 --> 02:27:22,561 experience does it breathe life into 3414 02:27:26,610 --> 02:27:25,420 something else and I'll tell the other 3415 02:27:28,410 --> 02:27:26,620 story when we come back from the break 3416 02:27:30,091 --> 02:27:28,420 and if I can remind people helped us out 3417 02:27:31,831 --> 02:27:30,101 with our Halloween for hunger campaign 3418 02:27:33,780 --> 02:27:31,841 we're helping Second Harvest Heartland 3419 02:27:35,761 --> 02:27:33,790 raise money to help feed our friends 3420 02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:35,771 neighbors relatives right here in the 3421 02:27:40,890 --> 02:27:38,170 heartland of America every $1 we raise 3422 02:27:43,621 --> 02:27:40,900 goes a long way that's three meals one 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02:31:35,840 you can start feeling and looking 10 or 3507 02:31:40,750 --> 02:31:38,810 15 years younger with nature's youth RSF 3508 02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:40,760 it's a doctor formulated daily 3509 02:31:44,470 --> 02:31:42,290 supplement that helps your body maintain 3510 02:31:47,290 --> 02:31:44,480 its peak performance and fight the aging 3511 02:31:48,790 --> 02:31:47,300 process imagine sleeping better looking 3512 02:31:51,400 --> 02:31:48,800 better and feeling better 3513 02:31:53,350 --> 02:31:51,410 see how Nature's youth RSF has helped 3514 02:31:56,050 --> 02:31:53,360 thousands of people just like you at 3515 02:31:58,540 --> 02:31:56,060 nature's youth calm nature's youth calm 3516 02:31:59,920 --> 02:31:58,550 the holidays are coming imagine how it 3517 02:32:01,840 --> 02:31:59,930 will feel when your family and friends 3518 02:32:04,210 --> 02:32:01,850 are asking you what you did to look so 3519 02:32:06,490 --> 02:32:04,220 good your secret will be nature's youth 3520 02:32:09,070 --> 02:32:06,500 RSF it's time to start looking better 3521 02:32:11,050 --> 02:32:09,080 and feeling better learn more in order 3522 02:32:21,340 --> 02:32:11,060 your nature's use RSF at nature's youth 3523 02:32:35,029 --> 02:32:25,040 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3524 02:32:36,739 --> 02:32:35,039 born this way k GRA radio.com this is 3525 02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:36,749 TJ's tiara 3526 02:32:40,650 --> 02:32:52,161 [Music] 3527 02:32:57,720 --> 02:32:55,440 all right welcome back to fade to black 3528 02:32:59,850 --> 02:32:57,730 I'm your host Jimmy Church it's our 3529 02:33:05,881 --> 02:32:59,860 Hallows Eve special broadcast with 3530 02:33:07,651 --> 02:33:05,891 darkness Dave Schrader now his new show 3531 02:33:09,871 --> 02:33:07,661 beyond the darkness by the way you can 3532 02:33:11,761 --> 02:33:09,881 go to darkness radio.com beyond the 3533 02:33:13,350 --> 02:33:11,771 darkness and and go and check it out 3534 02:33:15,390 --> 02:33:13,360 I've been a guest over there and and 3535 02:33:17,761 --> 02:33:15,400 it's it's really cool you know what I 3536 02:33:20,041 --> 02:33:17,771 really enjoyed a before we continue with 3537 02:33:22,741 --> 02:33:20,051 the scary stuff is the reaction that I 3538 02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:22,751 get from your audience and and the fader 3539 02:33:28,921 --> 02:33:26,110 nots when the two of us get together it 3540 02:33:31,831 --> 02:33:28,931 really makes people happy man it's 3541 02:33:33,121 --> 02:33:31,841 really cool I mean right when you can 3542 02:33:34,741 --> 02:33:33,131 bring two people who you like to listen 3543 02:33:37,171 --> 02:33:34,751 to together and you know I've had the 3544 02:33:38,911 --> 02:33:37,181 same deal with and I'm sure if you've 3545 02:33:40,831 --> 02:33:38,921 talked to Jim Harold people just you 3546 02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:40,841 know they love the hosts of their shows 3547 02:33:45,511 --> 02:33:42,490 and when we can intermingle with one 3548 02:33:47,161 --> 02:33:45,521 another it's like watching DC characters 3549 02:33:48,810 --> 02:33:47,171 and hanging out with Marvel characters 3550 02:33:51,871 --> 02:33:48,820 in the movies right yeah I've never had 3551 02:33:53,701 --> 02:33:51,881 Jim on the show yeah we need to retell 3552 02:33:56,551 --> 02:33:53,711 yes good Jim's a good guy and he's got 3553 02:33:59,220 --> 02:33:56,561 the predates most of our shows in the 3554 02:34:00,571 --> 02:33:59,230 paranormal realm and Jim's a great guest 3555 02:34:02,791 --> 02:34:00,581 with a lot of cool stories yeah 3556 02:34:05,161 --> 02:34:02,801 absolutely absolutely sometimes you're 3557 02:34:06,751 --> 02:34:05,171 too close to the fire right and it just 3558 02:34:10,831 --> 02:34:06,761 slips by you but you're absolutely right 3559 02:34:14,161 --> 02:34:10,841 Jim Harold man oh oh I've got a request 3560 02:34:17,430 --> 02:34:14,171 here so before I need you to dig deep 3561 02:34:20,430 --> 02:34:17,440 into your book of scary stories I've had 3562 02:34:24,211 --> 02:34:20,440 a few requests for some angels demons 3563 02:34:27,480 --> 02:34:24,221 and an exorcism I know you got a good 3564 02:34:29,671 --> 02:34:27,490 one so we'll close the show with that so 3565 02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:29,681 think about that okay a surrender man 3566 02:34:35,131 --> 02:34:32,530 you had one more slender man tale for us 3567 02:34:36,661 --> 02:34:35,141 yes this other slender man story comes 3568 02:34:39,151 --> 02:34:36,671 from Minnesota as well and it was one of 3569 02:34:42,121 --> 02:34:39,161 our listeners what is it really strange 3570 02:34:44,310 --> 02:34:42,131 yeah Dave what is it about Minnesota man 3571 02:34:46,680 --> 02:34:44,320 well you know our show's based here so 3572 02:34:48,511 --> 02:34:46,690 we have a very large contingent audience 3573 02:34:49,651 --> 02:34:48,521 of people that are local that listen so 3574 02:34:51,361 --> 02:34:49,661 that's where we were getting a lot of 3575 02:34:54,241 --> 02:34:51,371 our stories from to begin with it's like 3576 02:35:00,241 --> 02:34:54,251 a one-man show groove it's like you 3577 02:35:02,671 --> 02:35:00,251 don't want anybody to move there yeah 3578 02:35:04,960 --> 02:35:02,681 honey we've got we've got a really nice 3579 02:35:06,809 --> 02:35:04,970 house in Vegas we need to go check out 3580 02:35:10,660 --> 02:35:06,819 we got you know I was thinking about 3581 02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:10,670 Chicago but Minnesota's right out No 3582 02:35:16,960 --> 02:35:14,560 yeah Minnesota's faceless and demons and 3583 02:35:19,989 --> 02:35:16,970 creepy stuff out here well she had gone 3584 02:35:21,580 --> 02:35:19,999 this this listener of ours she had her 3585 02:35:23,649 --> 02:35:21,590 morning routine she'd get up she'd go to 3586 02:35:25,540 --> 02:35:23,659 the the Cariboo coffee here in Minnesota 3587 02:35:27,309 --> 02:35:25,550 and she'd go into the shop get her 3588 02:35:30,370 --> 02:35:27,319 coffee and then had head to school had 3589 02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:30,380 to work and she had pulled in the 3590 02:35:33,969 --> 02:35:31,850 caribou like she did every morning and 3591 02:35:35,859 --> 02:35:33,979 went inside to grab a coffee and stood 3592 02:35:37,569 --> 02:35:35,869 in her line got her coffee and her 3593 02:35:39,969 --> 02:35:37,579 biscuit and came walking out to the card 3594 02:35:41,649 --> 02:35:39,979 she she gets to the car she sees this 3595 02:35:43,540 --> 02:35:41,659 man standing there wearing a suit and a 3596 02:35:46,059 --> 02:35:43,550 hat and he's looking in the driver's 3597 02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:46,069 side window of her car and she's 3598 02:35:49,359 --> 02:35:47,810 thinking of why did I leave something on 3599 02:35:51,729 --> 02:35:49,369 the seat does this guy trying to figure 3600 02:35:53,170 --> 02:35:51,739 out how to break in and she goes pardon 3601 02:35:55,229 --> 02:35:53,180 me can I help you and he just keeps 3602 02:35:58,239 --> 02:35:55,239 looking into the window of the car and 3603 02:36:00,279 --> 02:35:58,249 she goes excuse me that's my car can I 3604 02:36:04,269 --> 02:36:00,289 help you with something and he turns to 3605 02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:04,279 look at her and he has no face she said 3606 02:36:08,739 --> 02:36:07,130 you could see where there were you know 3607 02:36:12,130 --> 02:36:08,749 a slit for a mouth you could see this 3608 02:36:15,309 --> 02:36:12,140 nose bump but it was just like a sheet 3609 02:36:17,380 --> 02:36:15,319 of skin over the space and she was 3610 02:36:21,699 --> 02:36:17,390 paralyzed she started to back up slowly 3611 02:36:21,969 --> 02:36:21,709 walk back in to Caribou and just stood 3612 02:36:26,109 --> 02:36:21,979 there 3613 02:36:27,729 --> 02:36:26,119 knew her they recognized her and one of 3614 02:36:30,279 --> 02:36:27,739 the briefs does said you know is there 3615 02:36:33,819 --> 02:36:30,289 something wrong and she said I'm not 3616 02:36:35,380 --> 02:36:33,829 sure I I just saw something that I don't 3617 02:36:37,679 --> 02:36:35,390 know and then they're like what's going 3618 02:36:40,420 --> 02:36:37,689 on she goes there's a man by my car and 3619 02:36:41,859 --> 02:36:40,430 they're like oh then you don't know no I 3620 02:36:44,139 --> 02:36:41,869 don't and she didn't want to tell him 3621 02:36:46,149 --> 02:36:44,149 what she had seen she was so unnerved by 3622 02:36:48,609 --> 02:36:46,159 it so two of the baristas walk her out 3623 02:36:50,170 --> 02:36:48,619 to her car ready to confront this guy 3624 02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:50,180 standing by her car and there's nobody 3625 02:36:55,449 --> 02:36:53,930 there to be found so she thanks them she 3626 02:36:57,460 --> 02:36:55,459 gets in the car they wait to make sure 3627 02:36:59,229 --> 02:36:57,470 she pulls out of the lot and is gone she 3628 02:37:02,019 --> 02:36:59,239 takes off and she's had enough to work 3629 02:37:04,269 --> 02:37:02,029 and everything's fine all of a sudden 3630 02:37:05,529 --> 02:37:04,279 she runs into this traffic jam and she's 3631 02:37:08,380 --> 02:37:05,539 sitting there forever 3632 02:37:09,760 --> 02:37:08,390 and finally it starts to break up she 3633 02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:09,770 makes it and she's gonna be late to work 3634 02:37:14,949 --> 02:37:13,760 now she gets up and gets by one of the 3635 02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:14,959 police officers rolls down her window 3636 02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:16,850 she goes what happened and she's in he 3637 02:37:21,140 --> 02:37:18,570 says there was an accident here that 3638 02:37:22,551 --> 02:37:21,150 and the time of the accident was about 3639 02:37:25,251 --> 02:37:22,561 the time she would have been crossing 3640 02:37:26,900 --> 02:37:25,261 through that intersection that day and a 3641 02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:26,910 truck had come barreling through smashed 3642 02:37:32,600 --> 02:37:28,530 into a couple vehicles and killed the 3643 02:37:35,900 --> 02:37:32,610 drivers so had she not been detained for 3644 02:37:37,730 --> 02:37:35,910 that brief a few moments had she left on 3645 02:37:39,171 --> 02:37:37,740 time she believes she would have been 3646 02:37:41,301 --> 02:37:39,181 going right through that intersection at 3647 02:37:43,430 --> 02:37:41,311 that point and she might have been one 3648 02:37:44,631 --> 02:37:43,440 of the people that ended up dead so 3649 02:37:46,180 --> 02:37:44,641 again now we look at this from a 3650 02:37:50,180 --> 02:37:46,190 different perspective is this a 3651 02:37:52,580 --> 02:37:50,190 harbinger of doom is this something that 3652 02:37:56,950 --> 02:37:52,590 was alerting her to a possible or was it 3653 02:38:00,950 --> 02:37:56,960 was a keeping her was this an angel oh 3654 02:38:04,190 --> 02:38:00,960 that's her aspect yeah war or he caused 3655 02:38:05,690 --> 02:38:04,200 that accident and he just didn't want 3656 02:38:08,001 --> 02:38:05,700 her in the accident 3657 02:38:10,160 --> 02:38:08,011 he knew it you know he was gonna go into 3658 02:38:13,370 --> 02:38:10,170 you know maybe your villain has double 3659 02:38:15,020 --> 02:38:13,380 sided he's he's chaotic neutral he he 3660 02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:15,030 wants to take the lives but just wants 3661 02:38:18,980 --> 02:38:17,130 to spare hers you know it's kind of like 3662 02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:18,990 the assassin that doesn't want the 3663 02:38:23,030 --> 02:38:21,090 children involved in the family right 3664 02:38:26,751 --> 02:38:23,040 you know I got you he's there to take 3665 02:38:29,921 --> 02:38:26,761 out the dad and so maybe he had a target 3666 02:38:32,330 --> 02:38:29,931 and didn't want somebody else involved 3667 02:38:33,530 --> 02:38:32,340 very well could be that's that's a 3668 02:38:35,631 --> 02:38:33,540 totally different aspect of this I 3669 02:38:39,980 --> 02:38:35,641 hadn't heard before but it still it lens 3670 02:38:41,211 --> 02:38:39,990 into this very strange sense of what is 3671 02:38:42,921 --> 02:38:41,221 it that we're dealing with here you've 3672 02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:42,931 heard all these creepy stories and that 3673 02:38:46,610 --> 02:38:45,120 the Slenderman and what his supposed to 3674 02:38:50,180 --> 02:38:46,620 be and what he is supposed to do and 3675 02:38:51,770 --> 02:38:50,190 people have seen this being and they've 3676 02:38:53,511 --> 02:38:51,780 caught what they believe are photographs 3677 02:38:56,450 --> 02:38:53,521 of this being and again unfortunately 3678 02:39:00,051 --> 02:38:56,460 because of the advent of Photoshop and 3679 02:39:02,780 --> 02:39:00,061 how easy it is to create amazing special 3680 02:39:04,671 --> 02:39:02,790 effects from the nerdery of your mom's 3681 02:39:06,620 --> 02:39:04,681 basement right we don't know what's real 3682 02:39:09,171 --> 02:39:06,630 and what's not anymore right it's all 3683 02:39:12,051 --> 02:39:09,181 kind of open to interpretation but it's 3684 02:39:14,480 --> 02:39:12,061 it's fascinating nonetheless so those 3685 02:39:17,390 --> 02:39:14,490 are are some of the the characters I 3686 02:39:20,080 --> 02:39:17,400 find to be the most chilling and freaky 3687 02:39:23,720 --> 02:39:20,090 you would mention the Malaysia story 3688 02:39:26,421 --> 02:39:23,730 there was and we'll go with this talking 3689 02:39:28,430 --> 02:39:26,431 about kind of the demonic realm it was 3690 02:39:31,310 --> 02:39:28,440 something we call dangerous playmates 3691 02:39:32,940 --> 02:39:31,320 and they were the burning girls and this 3692 02:39:34,860 --> 02:39:32,950 this took place and I want to 3693 02:39:37,921 --> 02:39:34,870 jimmy-boy I think it's going on maybe 3694 02:39:42,810 --> 02:39:37,931 about eight or nine years ago that this 3695 02:39:44,400 --> 02:39:42,820 was in the news these children were self 3696 02:39:45,570 --> 02:39:44,410 amol eating them so they were setting 3697 02:39:48,360 --> 02:39:45,580 themselves on fire 3698 02:39:51,841 --> 02:39:48,370 because they were being told that by 3699 02:39:53,580 --> 02:39:51,851 their imaginary friends that they could 3700 02:39:56,580 --> 02:39:53,590 go with them and they could have powers 3701 02:39:58,500 --> 02:39:56,590 if they did this and here's where it 3702 02:40:00,120 --> 02:39:58,510 gets really weird we know this is a fact 3703 02:40:02,100 --> 02:40:00,130 we know that there are unrelated 3704 02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:02,110 children that were doing this people 3705 02:40:05,580 --> 02:40:03,250 that did not know each other from 3706 02:40:07,051 --> 02:40:05,590 different parts of the country that were 3707 02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:07,061 doing the same thing the other 3708 02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:09,610 terrifying aspect of this is that they 3709 02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:11,920 would do it in a room adjacent to the 3710 02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:13,720 parents room and the parents were 3711 02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:15,130 completely oblivious 3712 02:40:19,440 --> 02:40:17,110 they wouldn't know until they walked in 3713 02:40:22,290 --> 02:40:19,450 and found a smoldering rubble of what 3714 02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:22,300 was once their child before they you 3715 02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:24,250 know there was no alarm system there was 3716 02:40:28,591 --> 02:40:26,650 no smell of smoke there wasn't setting 3717 02:40:30,600 --> 02:40:28,601 anything else on fire but the children 3718 02:40:31,980 --> 02:40:30,610 there were a few children I think was 3719 02:40:34,051 --> 02:40:31,990 around three of the children that had 3720 02:40:36,091 --> 02:40:34,061 survived these little girls who talked 3721 02:40:38,370 --> 02:40:36,101 of their imaginary friends who would 3722 02:40:40,740 --> 02:40:38,380 promise them great power and great 3723 02:40:42,390 --> 02:40:40,750 abilities if they set themselves on fire 3724 02:40:45,301 --> 02:40:42,400 and they'd be able to become these fire 3725 02:40:46,740 --> 02:40:45,311 fairies now it's really creepy because 3726 02:40:49,381 --> 02:40:46,750 as I was trying to find that original 3727 02:40:50,761 --> 02:40:49,391 story to talk about and I couldn't 3728 02:40:52,830 --> 02:40:50,771 because I can't remember what year it 3729 02:40:54,841 --> 02:40:52,840 was I'm almost 50 and I have eight kids 3730 02:40:59,220 --> 02:40:54,851 I can't remember my kids names at this 3731 02:41:02,761 --> 02:40:59,230 point I looked up kids lighting 3732 02:41:05,761 --> 02:41:02,771 themselves on fire and I started coming 3733 02:41:09,150 --> 02:41:05,771 across new articles Jimmy about these 3734 02:41:11,160 --> 02:41:09,160 kids that this fire fairy deal that's 3735 02:41:13,140 --> 02:41:11,170 going around it's an Internet deal that 3736 02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:13,150 it was a five year old girl I believe 3737 02:41:17,850 --> 02:41:16,570 that trying to see if I can pull it up 3738 02:41:20,490 --> 02:41:17,860 again here quickly while we're doing 3739 02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:20,500 this but they're being told by this 3740 02:41:25,080 --> 02:41:22,570 internet deal that if they want to 3741 02:41:27,450 --> 02:41:25,090 become part of the fairy people and the 3742 02:41:29,730 --> 02:41:27,460 fire fairy a very powerful kind they're 3743 02:41:32,040 --> 02:41:29,740 being told to leave the gas on on the 3744 02:41:35,040 --> 02:41:32,050 the ovens some are being told to put 3745 02:41:36,660 --> 02:41:35,050 themselves into the fire and put their 3746 02:41:39,720 --> 02:41:36,670 hands into the fire and that they'll get 3747 02:41:42,180 --> 02:41:39,730 the power of these fire fairies so it 3748 02:41:45,841 --> 02:41:42,190 just keeps cycling itself in different 3749 02:41:46,320 --> 02:41:45,851 ways these self Amole asian issues of a 3750 02:41:48,690 --> 02:41:46,330 peep 3751 02:41:52,620 --> 02:41:48,700 doing this thing to themselves trying to 3752 02:41:57,720 --> 02:41:52,630 attain powers and and some other kind of 3753 02:42:00,750 --> 02:41:57,730 supernatural abilities I went through 3754 02:42:02,850 --> 02:42:00,760 and these stories are out there in in 3755 02:42:06,840 --> 02:42:02,860 newspapers and and you can find them on 3756 02:42:10,350 --> 02:42:06,850 the net but some of the spontaneous 3757 02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:10,360 human combustion stories and then it 3758 02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:12,970 started to you know get a little bit out 3759 02:42:19,710 --> 02:42:15,010 of control you know the turn of the 3760 02:42:21,900 --> 02:42:19,720 century through like 1940 1950 with some 3761 02:42:24,420 --> 02:42:21,910 pretty incredible photographs and 3762 02:42:27,210 --> 02:42:24,430 stories from the authorities you know 3763 02:42:30,690 --> 02:42:27,220 bursting into these bedrooms and living 3764 02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:30,700 rooms finding somebody's body in a chair 3765 02:42:37,470 --> 02:42:34,240 nothing else burnt right just the bar 3766 02:42:39,150 --> 02:42:37,480 right in a bed right and some were 3767 02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:39,160 thinking well you know somebody was 3768 02:42:43,650 --> 02:42:41,050 smoking in bed or smoking while they 3769 02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:43,660 were watching TV well how come the chair 3770 02:42:49,740 --> 02:42:46,570 didn't burn the ceiling the floor the 3771 02:42:52,110 --> 02:42:49,750 rest of the building there that that's 3772 02:42:53,820 --> 02:42:52,120 where it gets creepy but I think I may 3773 02:42:56,551 --> 02:42:53,830 have stumbled upon one of the aspects of 3774 02:42:58,770 --> 02:42:56,561 this we did a show about seven or eight 3775 02:43:01,230 --> 02:42:58,780 years ago talking about about this 3776 02:43:04,290 --> 02:43:01,240 phenomena and something that had 3777 02:43:09,030 --> 02:43:04,300 registered to me when you ingest enough 3778 02:43:10,500 --> 02:43:09,040 chemicals anything's possible and you 3779 02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:10,510 know there are chemicals that you can 3780 02:43:19,140 --> 02:43:15,010 use for stripping wood and and furniture 3781 02:43:20,970 --> 02:43:19,150 and linseed oil if it's on a rag it can 3782 02:43:22,320 --> 02:43:20,980 self emolia it can just all of a sudden 3783 02:43:24,930 --> 02:43:22,330 start to smolder and burst into flames 3784 02:43:27,330 --> 02:43:24,940 right so it's just this kind of weird 3785 02:43:29,490 --> 02:43:27,340 chemical reaction with the air and look 3786 02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:29,500 this up if I'm lying I'm dying here look 3787 02:43:35,000 --> 02:43:31,690 it up Jimmy as we're talking they have 3788 02:43:40,350 --> 02:43:35,010 found in baby formula 3789 02:43:42,360 --> 02:43:40,360 rocket fuel right yes rocket fuel that 3790 02:43:45,150 --> 02:43:42,370 means you're ingesting it it's becoming 3791 02:43:47,511 --> 02:43:45,160 part of your body it's being absorbed by 3792 02:43:49,980 --> 02:43:47,521 the fat cells you're storing it and 3793 02:43:53,160 --> 02:43:49,990 we're being given this for years and 3794 02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:53,170 it's it's a self it's not even like 3795 02:43:56,250 --> 02:43:54,670 chemicals that are being dumped in there 3796 02:43:58,920 --> 02:43:56,260 being accidentally it's it's this 3797 02:43:59,960 --> 02:43:58,930 naturally-occurring components that are 3798 02:44:03,229 --> 02:43:59,970 part of rocket 3799 02:44:05,090 --> 02:44:03,239 and you know how hot and fast rocket 3800 02:44:07,550 --> 02:44:05,100 fuel burns right right so I'm wondering 3801 02:44:09,109 --> 02:44:07,560 with all of the chemicals and GMOs and 3802 02:44:12,349 --> 02:44:09,119 things that we're doing to food and 3803 02:44:15,830 --> 02:44:12,359 drinks are we filling our bodies with 3804 02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:15,840 these oils that just in the right 3805 02:44:21,080 --> 02:44:18,319 circumstance the right heat the right 3806 02:44:23,059 --> 02:44:21,090 chemical reaction maybe the chemicals 3807 02:44:25,550 --> 02:44:23,069 you put on your body that day the 3808 02:44:28,489 --> 02:44:25,560 perfume there's just some chemical 3809 02:44:31,029 --> 02:44:28,499 reaction that starts the fire and that's 3810 02:44:34,760 --> 02:44:31,039 and that's where it goes yeah I had red 3811 02:44:37,219 --> 02:44:34,770 and excuse me everybody for getting this 3812 02:44:40,219 --> 02:44:37,229 completely wrong but it was something 3813 02:44:42,529 --> 02:44:40,229 similar to this if you smoke enough 3814 02:44:45,410 --> 02:44:42,539 cigarettes right and just enough 3815 02:44:48,529 --> 02:44:45,420 nicotine into your bloodstream combined 3816 02:44:51,139 --> 02:44:48,539 with things like alcohol and maybe some 3817 02:44:53,929 --> 02:44:51,149 kind of exotic red meat and then combine 3818 02:44:55,929 --> 02:44:53,939 that with you know something else that 3819 02:44:59,090 --> 02:44:55,939 you're ingesting and combine that with 3820 02:45:02,689 --> 02:44:59,100 oxygen and all of a sudden you have this 3821 02:45:07,309 --> 02:45:02,699 cocktail in your blood your body 3822 02:45:09,290 --> 02:45:07,319 temperature raises and you simply the 3823 02:45:13,670 --> 02:45:09,300 the chemical reaction gets to the point 3824 02:45:15,859 --> 02:45:13,680 where you simply explode you know and 3825 02:45:18,920 --> 02:45:15,869 and I remember reading I there was a 3826 02:45:20,779 --> 02:45:18,930 whole chemical list of the right things 3827 02:45:24,859 --> 02:45:20,789 at the right time that you can actually 3828 02:45:29,179 --> 02:45:24,869 do accidentally right and jet your body 3829 02:45:31,670 --> 02:45:29,189 temperature raises and you explode crazy 3830 02:45:34,279 --> 02:45:31,680 thought that's like well the original 3831 02:45:36,979 --> 02:45:34,289 Batman movie with Michael Keaton the 3832 02:45:38,359 --> 02:45:36,989 Joker had had chemically treated a bunch 3833 02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:38,369 of different things and if you just 3834 02:45:41,989 --> 02:45:39,840 happen to use the right ones it would 3835 02:45:43,639 --> 02:45:41,999 kill you remember I mean that storyline 3836 02:45:44,960 --> 02:45:43,649 so that's been around for a long time 3837 02:45:47,389 --> 02:45:44,970 the theories and thoughts that if you 3838 02:45:49,160 --> 02:45:47,399 just mix it in the right way and you've 3839 02:45:51,469 --> 02:45:49,170 put it in the deodorants and perfumes 3840 02:45:53,300 --> 02:45:51,479 and hair products and once you've mixed 3841 02:45:55,219 --> 02:45:53,310 all three chemicals together you ignite 3842 02:45:57,889 --> 02:45:55,229 I mean it doesn't seem so far-fetched 3843 02:46:00,229 --> 02:45:57,899 that we may just be ingesting that which 3844 02:46:02,449 --> 02:46:00,239 will kill us and in what seems to be 3845 02:46:05,210 --> 02:46:02,459 supernatural ways I'm doing that right 3846 02:46:06,949 --> 02:46:05,220 now with some really good coffee just 3847 02:46:09,139 --> 02:46:06,959 lay out coffee coffee's good for you 3848 02:46:11,510 --> 02:46:09,149 Dave working everybody go and check out 3849 02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:11,520 your show they can find us if they go to 3850 02:46:15,501 --> 02:46:13,410 darkness radio.com 3851 02:46:17,991 --> 02:46:15,511 and if they're a Droid user we have an 3852 02:46:19,791 --> 02:46:18,001 app for Droid they can just go to the 3853 02:46:22,041 --> 02:46:19,801 Google Play Store and whether it's on 3854 02:46:24,470 --> 02:46:22,051 their computer or on a droid app just 3855 02:46:25,970 --> 02:46:24,480 get the darkness radio app and that 3856 02:46:27,591 --> 02:46:25,980 gives you access to all of the different 3857 02:46:29,661 --> 02:46:27,601 programs and things that were associated 3858 02:46:32,301 --> 02:46:29,671 with so that you can find us easier and 3859 02:46:33,621 --> 02:46:32,311 make us a part of your world and we talk 3860 02:46:35,480 --> 02:46:33,631 about the strange in the supernatural 3861 02:46:37,310 --> 02:46:35,490 five days a week Monday through Friday 3862 02:46:39,531 --> 02:46:37,320 and it's usually a sixty to ninety 3863 02:46:42,110 --> 02:46:39,541 minute podcast made available to you so 3864 02:46:43,881 --> 02:46:42,120 that you can enjoy all the weird fringe 3865 02:46:46,011 --> 02:46:43,891 world that we're we're surrounded with 3866 02:46:47,810 --> 02:46:46,021 every day and it's a good escape from 3867 02:46:50,331 --> 02:46:47,820 the reality of what's going on in the 3868 02:46:52,730 --> 02:46:50,341 world around us and a focus on a 3869 02:46:54,890 --> 02:46:52,740 different aspect of reality thank you so 3870 02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:54,900 much my friend just an absolutely 3871 02:46:58,520 --> 02:46:57,120 amazing show and I'm watching I'm 3872 02:47:01,551 --> 02:46:58,530 watching Twitter here mean you need to 3873 02:47:04,190 --> 02:47:01,561 do this like once a month with Dave Dave 3874 02:47:06,741 --> 02:47:04,200 need to get together oh oh by the way I 3875 02:47:09,801 --> 02:47:06,751 do need to do this it popped up like 3876 02:47:12,591 --> 02:47:09,811 four or five times in Twitter everybody 3877 02:47:14,291 --> 02:47:12,601 wants to know how is Tim and why isn't 3878 02:47:17,900 --> 02:47:14,301 he joining us tonight 3879 02:47:21,350 --> 02:47:17,910 Tim is getting better but it's it's kind 3880 02:47:24,020 --> 02:47:21,360 of a one step up two steps back with his 3881 02:47:25,730 --> 02:47:24,030 health issues and it's him as a diabetic 3882 02:47:28,970 --> 02:47:25,740 and has been dealing with Charcot foot 3883 02:47:31,581 --> 02:47:28,980 and it continually plagues him and 3884 02:47:34,241 --> 02:47:31,591 causes problems and infections and we 3885 02:47:36,680 --> 02:47:34,251 nearly lost him earlier this year right 3886 02:47:39,711 --> 02:47:36,690 thankfully that turned itself around but 3887 02:47:41,511 --> 02:47:39,721 he just was dealt a new blow he'll most 3888 02:47:44,091 --> 02:47:41,521 likely be in a walking boot for the rest 3889 02:47:45,890 --> 02:47:44,101 of his life because of the irreversible 3890 02:47:47,930 --> 02:47:45,900 damage to his foot so if you can keep 3891 02:47:52,071 --> 02:47:47,940 your keep Tim in your thoughts and 3892 02:47:55,100 --> 02:47:52,081 prayers it's it's hard on his stamina as 3893 02:47:57,020 --> 02:47:55,110 a man and as I'm not saying in a sexual 3894 02:47:58,970 --> 02:47:57,030 way but I mean the stamina dealing with 3895 02:48:03,261 --> 02:47:58,980 these kind of setbacks constantly and 3896 02:48:05,451 --> 02:48:03,271 and to the morale so he needs the love 3897 02:48:07,220 --> 02:48:05,461 and attention and that's it and I'm sure 3898 02:48:08,421 --> 02:48:07,230 you know Jimmy he would love to be on 3899 02:48:09,890 --> 02:48:08,431 your show if you ever reach out to him 3900 02:48:12,110 --> 02:48:09,900 he'd be more than happy to join you and 3901 02:48:14,720 --> 02:48:12,120 talk about conspiracies because he loves 3902 02:48:16,461 --> 02:48:14,730 that electronic voice phenomena aliens 3903 02:48:17,991 --> 02:48:16,471 in ancient art you want to talk about 3904 02:48:19,730 --> 02:48:18,001 any kind of weird fringe stuff Tim's 3905 02:48:21,291 --> 02:48:19,740 your guy for that as well but I'm always 3906 02:48:23,211 --> 02:48:21,301 happy to come back and share more creepy 3907 02:48:24,860 --> 02:48:23,221 stories with you thank you so much Dave 3908 02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:24,870 Ben you're the absolute best and you 3909 02:48:29,000 --> 02:48:26,160 just make you make 3910 02:48:30,801 --> 02:48:29,010 my job in in my life on the air so much 3911 02:48:32,930 --> 02:48:30,811 easier just thank you so much my friend 3912 02:48:34,761 --> 02:48:32,940 I really it's my pleasure and and for 3913 02:48:36,650 --> 02:48:34,771 your listeners around the world just do 3914 02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:36,660 good and be good that's all I can ask of 3915 02:48:42,440 --> 02:48:39,690 you and until next time keep it dark 3916 02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:42,450 happy Halloween Dave happy Halloween 3917 02:48:47,660 --> 02:48:44,880 thank you so much darkness Dave Schrader 3918 02:48:49,310 --> 02:48:47,670 everybody and his links are over at 3919 02:48:51,320 --> 02:48:49,320 Jimmy Church radio.com you can just 3920 02:48:55,131 --> 02:48:51,330 click it's beyond the darkness darkness 3921 02:48:58,430 --> 02:48:55,141 radio and I was a guest on there I have 3922 02:49:01,341 --> 02:48:58,440 to say this was last month or and a 3923 02:49:02,240 --> 02:49:01,351 little bit longer than that but it was 3924 02:49:05,600 --> 02:49:02,250 so much fun 3925 02:49:08,511 --> 02:49:05,610 Dave is so good at his craft right he is 3926 02:49:11,030 --> 02:49:08,521 just so good he makes it easy on me I 3927 02:49:14,390 --> 02:49:11,040 mean he makes it look really really easy 3928 02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:14,400 he's one of the best and it's it's just 3929 02:49:19,460 --> 02:49:16,110 a pleasure to have him on the show just 3930 02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:19,470 so much fun and I got to tell you I'm 3931 02:49:23,480 --> 02:49:21,210 not gonna get my money back tonight out 3932 02:49:26,150 --> 02:49:23,490 of Dave because he certainly scared the 3933 02:49:28,850 --> 02:49:26,160 crap out of me a few times tonight and I 3934 02:49:30,170 --> 02:49:28,860 loved everybody's reactions with all of 3935 02:49:33,650 --> 02:49:30,180 that thank you so much Dave you're the 3936 02:49:36,490 --> 02:49:33,660 very best I did want to I've got to go 3937 02:49:39,381 --> 02:49:36,500 back something happened 3938 02:49:43,040 --> 02:49:39,391 let me pull up my notes here something 3939 02:49:46,011 --> 02:49:43,050 happened last week and I posted up on 3940 02:49:50,030 --> 02:49:46,021 Facebook if you go over to my facebook 3941 02:49:52,400 --> 02:49:50,040 page it's there an object I haven't had 3942 02:49:55,820 --> 02:49:52,410 a chance to talk about this yet but an 3943 02:50:00,670 --> 02:49:55,830 object for the first time has entered 3944 02:50:05,631 --> 02:50:00,680 our solar system from interstellar space 3945 02:50:08,570 --> 02:50:05,641 now it is called and what what is what 3946 02:50:10,810 --> 02:50:08,580 is important here to realize is that 3947 02:50:13,480 --> 02:50:10,820 everything that we have monitored 3948 02:50:18,580 --> 02:50:13,490 everything that we know about here is 3949 02:50:23,261 --> 02:50:18,590 from here right our own solar system 3950 02:50:26,900 --> 02:50:23,271 this object is called a 2017 new one and 3951 02:50:30,051 --> 02:50:26,910 it entered into our solar system now I 3952 02:50:32,360 --> 02:50:30,061 have an animation posted up over on my 3953 02:50:34,220 --> 02:50:32,370 personal Facebook page and you can go 3954 02:50:38,450 --> 02:50:34,230 and check it out there and somebody 3955 02:50:40,010 --> 02:50:38,460 should pop it up in Twitter but it came 3956 02:50:43,519 --> 02:50:40,020 into our solar system 3957 02:50:45,710 --> 02:50:43,529 and took all I'm saying a left-hand turn 3958 02:50:48,649 --> 02:50:45,720 you know depends on what view you are 3959 02:50:52,819 --> 02:50:48,659 the solar system could be right but but 3960 02:50:55,819 --> 02:50:52,829 took a turn and is now splitting the 3961 02:50:57,319 --> 02:50:55,829 object this is what is crazy they don't 3962 02:50:59,449 --> 02:50:57,329 know what it is they don't know if it's 3963 02:51:00,739 --> 02:50:59,459 UFO if it's an alien spacecraft they 3964 02:51:03,670 --> 02:51:00,749 don't know if it's some space rock a 3965 02:51:06,909 --> 02:51:03,680 comet and a story they don't know and 3966 02:51:09,739 --> 02:51:06,919 they don't even know where it came from 3967 02:51:13,999 --> 02:51:09,749 okay it's traveling at fifteen point 3968 02:51:15,920 --> 02:51:14,009 eight miles per second and there you go 3969 02:51:21,139 --> 02:51:15,930 now they've been trying to track this 3970 02:51:25,939 --> 02:51:21,149 well today the first photographs were 3971 02:51:28,999 --> 02:51:25,949 released of this object now they've got 3972 02:51:32,749 --> 02:51:29,009 a measurement on it and they're guessing 3973 02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:32,759 that it's about a four hundred feet 3974 02:51:37,789 --> 02:51:35,279 across it's tiny 3975 02:51:40,999 --> 02:51:37,799 dude it's a spaceship man I'm telling 3976 02:51:45,909 --> 02:51:41,009 you and this is what is crazy thus these 3977 02:51:49,729 --> 02:51:45,919 images are stunning and it is the first 3978 02:51:54,710 --> 02:51:49,739 objects object that humans have ever 3979 02:51:56,329 --> 02:51:54,720 seen from out side of our solar system 3980 02:51:59,719 --> 02:51:56,339 you need to understand what I'm saying 3981 02:52:01,519 --> 02:51:59,729 comets are from here asteroids are in 3982 02:52:03,109 --> 02:52:01,529 our gravity field these these aren't 3983 02:52:05,079 --> 02:52:03,119 entering from outside of the solar 3984 02:52:06,649 --> 02:52:05,089 system they're not interstellar 3985 02:52:10,130 --> 02:52:06,659 scientists from Queen's University 3986 02:52:12,170 --> 02:52:10,140 Belfast are using their telescopes to 3987 02:52:16,569 --> 02:52:12,180 study the object which was identified 3988 02:52:19,369 --> 02:52:16,579 through a telescope in Hawaii last week 3989 02:52:22,819 --> 02:52:19,379 professor Allen Fitzsimmons described 3990 02:52:26,239 --> 02:52:22,829 the discovery as sending a shiver down 3991 02:52:29,420 --> 02:52:26,249 your spine end quote 3992 02:52:33,109 --> 02:52:29,430 he said and I'm quoting here by 3993 02:52:36,559 --> 02:52:33,119 Wednesday this week today is Monday by 3994 02:52:38,479 --> 02:52:36,569 Wednesday this week it became almost 3995 02:52:41,989 --> 02:52:38,489 certain that this it will become certain 3996 02:52:44,869 --> 02:52:41,999 that this object is alien to our solar 3997 02:52:49,760 --> 02:52:44,879 system you gotta check out the picture 3998 02:52:52,429 --> 02:52:49,770 there it is right there what is it now 3999 02:52:53,810 --> 02:52:52,439 the the trippy thing when you look at 4000 02:52:55,370 --> 02:52:53,820 the animation this is 4001 02:52:57,200 --> 02:52:55,380 I want everybody to plug into their 4002 02:52:59,870 --> 02:52:57,210 minds I let me jump back over to Twitter 4003 02:53:02,180 --> 02:52:59,880 thank you Dan I'm gonna retweet it right 4004 02:53:04,310 --> 02:53:02,190 now there you go 4005 02:53:06,950 --> 02:53:04,320 oh this isn't the animation you gotta 4006 02:53:09,291 --> 02:53:06,960 see the animation but thank you Dan for 4007 02:53:15,381 --> 02:53:09,301 posting this anybody posts the animation 4008 02:53:16,850 --> 02:53:15,391 - did it get posted no okay I'll get it 4009 02:53:20,720 --> 02:53:16,860 up after the show tonight you have to 4010 02:53:24,430 --> 02:53:20,730 see it but look at Dan look at Dan's 4011 02:53:29,240 --> 02:53:24,440 it entered in from somewhere and 4012 02:53:30,770 --> 02:53:29,250 literally buzzed us buzzed the Sun went 4013 02:53:33,350 --> 02:53:30,780 through our solar system took a turn 4014 02:53:37,131 --> 02:53:33,360 went past earth at about 14 million 4015 02:53:40,011 --> 02:53:37,141 miles out and now is is splitting and we 4016 02:53:45,220 --> 02:53:40,021 don't know where it's going out of the 4017 02:53:49,490 --> 02:53:45,230 vastness of the Milky Way our galaxy 4018 02:53:53,751 --> 02:53:49,500 this thing came in found our solar 4019 02:53:58,160 --> 02:53:53,761 system cruised through it turned and is 4020 02:54:02,410 --> 02:53:58,170 now leaving I just have to say is it 4021 02:54:08,270 --> 02:54:02,420 intelligent I like it it's too bizarre 4022 02:54:10,640 --> 02:54:08,280 what is going on I'm I it looks and you 4023 02:54:11,751 --> 02:54:10,650 look at the animation of it it looks too 4024 02:54:15,470 --> 02:54:11,761 smart 4025 02:54:16,910 --> 02:54:15,480 it looks intentional this is the 4026 02:54:20,961 --> 02:54:16,920 vastness of space 4027 02:54:24,200 --> 02:54:20,971 it is so humongo and so huge and to have 4028 02:54:27,980 --> 02:54:24,210 this little guy our little friend visit 4029 02:54:32,870 --> 02:54:27,990 us cruise through our solar system past 4030 02:54:38,091 --> 02:54:32,880 our Sun past Earth and then split in a 4031 02:54:40,900 --> 02:54:38,101 perfect turn it's bizarre it didn't 4032 02:54:45,051 --> 02:54:40,910 choose to stay it didn't get grabbed by 4033 02:54:48,381 --> 02:54:45,061 some gravity pulled into an orbit you 4034 02:54:52,160 --> 02:54:48,391 know and and is now staying no it came 4035 02:54:56,450 --> 02:54:52,170 from outside buzzed us and is now 4036 02:54:58,220 --> 02:54:56,460 splitting I'm telling you I so many 4037 02:54:59,751 --> 02:54:58,230 times I mentioned on this show and I'm 4038 02:55:02,620 --> 02:54:59,761 gonna drive this home right now so you 4039 02:55:06,970 --> 02:55:02,630 can understand where I'm coming from if 4040 02:55:08,890 --> 02:55:06,980 if we were out there doing 4041 02:55:11,770 --> 02:55:08,900 this and we had the capability we would 4042 02:55:13,961 --> 02:55:11,780 do the exact same thing have some test 4043 02:55:15,640 --> 02:55:13,971 equipment on board so monitoring you're 4044 02:55:18,490 --> 02:55:15,650 photographing you're taking images 4045 02:55:21,371 --> 02:55:18,500 you're making notes and you're cruising 4046 02:55:24,610 --> 02:55:21,381 by this whatever they call our solar 4047 02:55:27,280 --> 02:55:24,620 system right and and they're splitting 4048 02:55:31,860 --> 02:55:27,290 and broadcasting this information back 4049 02:55:34,751 --> 02:55:31,870 home think about that if we had a 4050 02:55:37,301 --> 02:55:34,761 thousand years from now a thousand years 4051 02:55:39,730 --> 02:55:37,311 not not on a thousand years and we're 4052 02:55:41,171 --> 02:55:39,740 out exploring the Milky Way we're able 4053 02:55:42,671 --> 02:55:41,181 to get to the Stars you know how we 4054 02:55:46,810 --> 02:55:42,681 would do it you know how we would get 4055 02:55:50,501 --> 02:55:46,820 there we would have robots replicating 4056 02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:50,511 and building more drones more satellites 4057 02:55:56,350 --> 02:55:53,120 as we moved along spitting them out 4058 02:55:57,911 --> 02:55:56,360 around the galaxy going out you're gonna 4059 02:55:59,470 --> 02:55:57,921 go check out this star you're gonna go 4060 02:56:03,761 --> 02:55:59,480 check up this door you're gonna go check 4061 02:56:06,701 --> 02:56:03,771 out this star by the tens of millions we 4062 02:56:09,371 --> 02:56:06,711 will have eventually we will have tens 4063 02:56:13,121 --> 02:56:09,381 of millions of drones and satellites out 4064 02:56:17,140 --> 02:56:13,131 exploring our Milky Way that's what we 4065 02:56:21,490 --> 02:56:17,150 would do could this be that I'm just 4066 02:56:25,001 --> 02:56:21,500 saying it's an amazing amazing story one 4067 02:56:27,011 --> 02:56:25,011 that thank you thank you do sky there's 4068 02:56:30,161 --> 02:56:27,021 the animation right there I'm retweeting 4069 02:56:31,841 --> 02:56:30,171 it look at the animation take that baby 4070 02:56:33,671 --> 02:56:31,851 a big screen look at it look at it 4071 02:56:38,650 --> 02:56:33,681 there's there's our solar system takes a 4072 02:56:40,211 --> 02:56:38,660 turn splits it's 400 feet across and we 4073 02:56:45,041 --> 02:56:40,221 don't know we don't know where it came 4074 02:56:48,400 --> 02:56:45,051 from what it's doing we know nothing and 4075 02:56:50,411 --> 02:56:48,410 that my friend my friends conclude 4076 02:56:53,291 --> 02:56:50,421 another episode of fade to black 4077 02:56:56,740 --> 02:56:53,301 I gotta thank the one and only darkness 4078 02:56:58,871 --> 02:56:56,750 day for coming in tonight he is truly 4079 02:57:02,171 --> 02:56:58,881 the most in-demand person when it comes 4080 02:57:05,020 --> 02:57:02,181 to October and Halloween but he is the 4081 02:57:07,690 --> 02:57:05,030 best happy dreaming tonight phaedra 4082 02:57:09,940 --> 02:57:07,700 knots theta black's executive producer 4083 02:57:12,430 --> 02:57:09,950 is Rita Kumari on shows produced by home 4084 02:57:15,701 --> 02:57:12,440 Jay Paul mark Tico Royale j-3 Rene Jonas 4085 02:57:17,980 --> 02:57:15,711 Thank You Dennis thank you Bob announces 4086 02:57:19,860 --> 02:57:17,990 our Steve harder gene veto mrdiko barf 4087 02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:19,870 ad by del webmaster drew 4088 02:57:24,900 --> 02:57:23,200 geek music doug aldrich intro space boys 4089 02:57:28,740 --> 02:57:24,910 space boy music.com 4090 02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:28,750 fade to black is produced by kjsurya and 4091 02:57:35,040 --> 02:57:32,650 syndication as kg ra the planet this 4092 02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:35,050 broadcast zona copyright of 2017 by fade 4093 02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:36,970 to black in the game changer network it 4094 02:57:40,341 --> 02:57:39,010 cannot be rebroadcast download a copy to 4095 02:57:42,750 --> 02:57:40,351 reused anywhere in the known universe 4096 02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:42,760 without written permission from fade to 4097 02:57:46,380 --> 02:57:44,410 black or the game changer network 4098 02:57:50,011 --> 02:57:46,390 tomorrow night right here 4099 02:57:52,801 --> 02:57:50,021 Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Ripper for 4100 02:57:54,810 --> 02:57:52,811 our Halloween special come on by and 4101 02:57:56,970 --> 02:57:54,820 hang out with us I'm your host Jimmy 4102 02:57:59,150 --> 02:57:56,980 Church follow me on twitter @jj Church 4103 02:58:01,950 --> 02:57:59,160 radio you can follow Dave Schrader at 4104 02:58:04,680 --> 02:58:01,960 beyond the darkness it's right there in 4105 02:58:12,630 --> 02:58:04,690 Twitter until tomorrow night everybody